> On Behalf Of Mike at Green-Beast.com

> > What about marking up "*" used in forms with ABBR elements?
> 
> In your example you left the text instruction.
> 
> > <p>Fields marked with * (asterisk) are required.</p>
> Thus I'd say further treatment is unnecessary. And if you change that
> by
> removing the text instruction, there's no guarantee the user will get
> the
> expansion. In fact, if what I understand is correct in that most screen
> reader users don't expland abbreviations, they would only get
> "asterisk"
> spoken to them. They might wonder what its significance is.

Hi Mike,
That's not what I understood from a recent discussion, I think they'd have
to listen to every expansion.
Also, if I left the instruction and provide expansion at the same time it is
because a user could get to the form control through an accesskey, thus
skipping that paragraph. 
And if I went with the expansion using "title" only (no plain text) then
sighted keyboard users would get nothing. 
As a side note, I still do *not* understand why it is not *required* to do
the expansion in plain text...
As a side note #2, I listened to Joe Clark yesterday and I believe he said
we should not even bother! 
 
> As an aside, if something of this sort was a viable solution, I would
> lean
> towards using the defining instance element, DFN, to mark this up.
> 
> <dfn title="Require field">*</dfn>
> 
> But the same issue applies to DFN as it pertains to the expansion of
> titles -- I think.
> 
> That's my two cents, anyway. I'll be interested in what others have to
> say
> about this.

I don't think that would work. The specs say:
"The dfn element contains the defining instance of the enclosed term."
http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml2/mod-text.html#sec_9.4.
So you could not mark it up like this, it would have to be within the text
that defines it. At least that's how I understand it.

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Regards,
Thierry | www.TJKDesign.com


 



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