On 2007/06/01 13:09 (GMT-0400) Andrew Maben apparently typed: > On Jun 1, 2007, at 12:07 PM, Felix Miata wrote:
>> Or, quit thinking like a print designer. Embrace the variability that is a >> browser viewport. Size relatively, which can work for 200x400 and all the >> way up as high as high gets. > With respect, I think this is a rather over simplistic response, at > least if I'm correctly interpreting your intent. > You seem to be suggesting that a design or layout should be conceived > as a rectangle with arbitrary relative dimensions, and that those Arbitrary may or may not be the right word to describe a somewhat narrow range of proportion between default text size and viewport size that reflects my intent. Such a range would have a line length ideal of 10-11 words [1] fit in roughly 50%-70% of the viewport width as the range center point. > dimensions should be preserved at all resolutions through relative > sizing? Sorry, but that sounds like print thinking to me, and in that > case how small is the text going to be at 200x400 if it's presentable > at 800x600? Presumably the default text size at 200x400 will be a bunch smaller than 800x600 in keeping with the physically smaller display, but 200x400 is really an extreme example that needs a handheld media type stylesheet. 480x360 or thereabouts might be a more realistic floor for screen media, but at a minimum 800x600 all the way up should work as long as the default font size and viewport size stay within a reasonably common proportional relationship range. > If I'm missing your point, I'd love to see some clarifying examples. Maybe we should just start by analyzing and discussing a very simplistic example: http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/indexx.html (http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/ without the automatic redirect) Using Safari, Konq, FF, SM and/or Camino zoom, or IE's text sizer, zoom it up a whole bunch of steps, and down a whole bunch of steps. Constrain only by keeping the text size to viewport width ratio within a reasonable working range. So large a font that only 4 words could fit across the viewport, and so small that line lengths could become 40 words or more, would clearly be outside that range. Somewhat less simplistic examples: http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/auth/Sites/ksc/ http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/auth/Sites/ksc/dancesrqb.html http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/auth/Sites/dlviolin.html [1] on line lengths of 10-11 words: http://psychology.wichita.edu/optimalweb/text.htm http://webstyleguide.com/type/lines.html http://www.maxdesign.com.au/presentation/em/ -- "Respect everyone." I Peter 2:17 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/ ******************************************************************* List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *******************************************************************
