On 14/12/2007, Al Sparber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> No offense, but (imo) anyone who believes what you just wrote is extremely
> naive. While all web developers want standards conformance (whether they
> admit it or not), an industry with multiple browsers is not a healthy
> industry. No 2 browsers are alike. Every browser has quirks, anomalies, and
> bugs. What you (Opera) need to spend your idle time doing is coming up with
> a means for web developers to deploy fixes for your bugs. Something similar
> to Microsoft conditional comments.

Isn't that effort more well spent in actually fixing those bugs,
instead?  The goal should IMHO be all browsers supporting the same
HTML/XHTML/XML/XSLT/CSS/JS/DOM/SVG/PNG/whatever without having to
write something specifically to each browser. Reducing the disparities
is a better way to go.

Developers don't WANT to send separate style sheets or scripts for ie.
Developers want ie to get fixed so that it supports those original
style sheets and scripts that are already supported by everyone else.
Op is close enough to the standards and to the other browsers that
they won't break particularly much code out there by fixing those bugs
that are actually bugs. For ie, the situation is different since
fixing those bugs would actually break terribly large amounts of
present code. That's why ie needs conditional comments and compliance
mode switches when other browsers don't.

> Then spend time convincing your compadres
> at Mozilla and Apple to do the same thing. Once you admit that you produce
> bugs, you'll have done a good deed... a noble deed. Then you can go about
> suing and whining all you want. Or do you believe that your browser is
> perfect?

In which way is it better to let developers send code specifically for
fixing a bug, which creates a dependency of that code on the bug in
question, than fixing the bug? If such dependencies are created, they
make it harder to actually fix bugs.
-- 
David "liorean" Andersson


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