You could also try out Nvu (http://nvu.com), which is a free WYSIWYG editor.
Just a thought.

*;; Delilah Hinman
Viere Media . com <http://viemedia.com>

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> From: "Krystian - Sunlust" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 19:46:12 +0100
> Subject: Re: [WSG] Dreamweaver8
>
> Yeah, you can get Dreamweaver 8 on Ebay, but I couldn't find any legal
> links for download.
> To be honest, I wouldn't use Dreamweaver, I use Aptana Studio and from
> the coding side it works great and it's free.
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Krystian - Sunlust
> Freelance on the side: Sunlust Designs - http://sunlust.net
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> From: "kate" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 19:57:48 +0100
> Subject: Re: [WSG] Dreamweaver8
>
> Thanks Nancy,
>
> I do have some Web mags I bought last year there should be one on there as
> the mag is Dreamweaver monthly or was.
>
> I was looking on the Web and found this lol don't know who it was - no
> name:
> The latest version of Dreamweaver - Dreamweaver 8 - has been launched
> today.
> I was lucky enough to be involved with the Beta and so have been working
> with this new version for several months. So, is it worth the upgrade?
>
> http://www.rachelandrew.co.uk/archives/2005/09/13/dreamweaver-8/
>
> Oh wait Nancy..could be Drew M???
>
> Now, where did I put those mags :D
>
> Thanks Nancy!
>
> Kate
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Nancy Gill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 7:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [WSG] Dreamweaver8
>
>
> > Hi Kate:
> >
> > Adobe doesn't offer downloads of older versions once a newer version has
> > come out.  The only way I know to get a 30 day trial at this point is to
> > find a CD with a 30 day trial of it on a Dreamweaver 8 book .. many of
> > them come with CDs that contain sample files and a trial of the program.
> > Of course, after the 30 days, the upgrade would be to CS3 so then you
> > would be back where you started.
> >
> > Perhaps you could also find one on EBay or in a 3rd party store on
> > clearance .. be careful especially with the former that it's not a
> > bootlegged copy but comes with a valid serial.
> >
> > AFAIK, those are about the only options since DW8 is a version and a
> half
> > behind.
> >
> > Nancy
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "kate" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 8:23 AM
> > Subject: [WSG] Dreamweaver8
> >
> >
> >> Nancy Gill hi,
> >>
> >> Where will I get the dl for Dreamweaver8 please? I can't find it at
> >> Adobe.I don't really want CS3 because its heavy on CPU, or what things
> >> can I take out of CS3?
> >> Thanks Nancy!
> >> Kate
> >>
> >>
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> From: "kate" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 20:00:25 +0100
> Subject: Re: [WSG] Dreamweaver8
>
> Hi Krystian,
>
> Ebay lol yes, I looked there today but somehow  i'm never sure if the
> software would be all there when you bought it.
>
> I'll look at your Aptana Studio so thanks for that.
> Kate
>
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> From: "Krystian - Sunlust" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 7:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [WSG] Dreamweaver8
>
>
> > Yeah, you can get Dreamweaver 8 on Ebay, but I couldn't find any legal
> > links for download.
> > To be honest, I wouldn't use Dreamweaver, I use Aptana Studio and from
> > the coding side it works great and it's free.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > --
> > Krystian - Sunlust
> > Freelance on the side: Sunlust Designs - http://sunlust.net
> > Full time Website Designer at SME System Solutions Ltd
> >
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> From: "Nancy Gill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 12:47:36 -0700
> Subject: Re: [WSG] Dreamweaver8
>
> > http://www.rachelandrew.co.uk/archives/2005/09/13/dreamweaver-8/
> >
> > Oh wait Nancy..could be Drew M???
> >
>
> Yes .. that is Drew McLellan.
>
>
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> From: "Nancy Gill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 12:48:32 -0700
> Subject: Re: [WSG] Dreamweaver8
>
> > I'll look at your Aptana Studio so thanks for that.
>
>
> Aptana Studio looks and works much like Eclipse .. if you have any
> experience with Flex Builder .. then it would be good to look at.
>
> Nancy
>
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> From: "kate" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 21:03:36 +0100
> Subject: Re: [WSG] Dreamweaver8
>
> Nope Nancy no experience at all with anything except  Dreamweaver.
>
> I learnt some DW last year with a CS3 trial but its a bit heavy like I
> mentioned. I should find a DW8 tomorrow in a mag.
>
> Ah I was right about  Drew is'nt he from 'All in the Head' too? Funny name
> for a site lolol
>
> Kate.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Nancy Gill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 8:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [WSG] Dreamweaver8
>
>
> >> I'll look at your Aptana Studio so thanks for that.
> >
> >
> > Aptana Studio looks and works much like Eclipse .. if you have any
> > experience with Flex Builder .. then it would be good to look at.
> >
> > Nancy
> >
> >
> >
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> From: "Nancy Gill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 13:19:48 -0700
> Subject: Re: [WSG] Dreamweaver8
>
> > I learnt some DW last year with a CS3 trial but its a bit heavy like I
> > mentioned. I should find a DW8 tomorrow in a mag.
>
> The biggest reason to upgrade would be Spry.  Other than that .. there
> wasn't a lot in the CS3 version other than some CSS stuff and a few
> improvements here and there.
> >
> > Ah I was right about  Drew is'nt he from 'All in the Head' too? Funny
> name
> > for a site lolol
>
> That's Drew.   ;)
> He did have some unique names .. he doesn't appear to do a lot with
> Dreamweaver any longer.
>
> Nancy
>
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> From: "Tim MacKay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 09:20:26 +1000
> Subject: RE: [WSG] Dreamweaver8
>
> Hi,
>
> I would recommend Aptana Studio as well for hand coding. I just downloaded
> it and so far its great. Although one thing I miss about dreamweaver is
> that
> you can do a 'search all' and get a list of all instances of the thing you
> are searching for rather than cycling through a 'find...find...find...'
> list. So far it's the only program I've used that does that and I really
> notice not having it.
>
> HTH,
>
> Tim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Nancy Gill
> Sent: Monday, 7 April 2008 6:20 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [WSG] Dreamweaver8
>
> > I learnt some DW last year with a CS3 trial but its a bit heavy like I
> > mentioned. I should find a DW8 tomorrow in a mag.
>
> The biggest reason to upgrade would be Spry.  Other than that .. there
> wasn't a lot in the CS3 version other than some CSS stuff and a few
> improvements here and there.
> >
> > Ah I was right about  Drew is'nt he from 'All in the Head' too? Funny
> name
>
> > for a site lolol
>
> That's Drew.   ;)
> He did have some unique names .. he doesn't appear to do a lot with
> Dreamweaver any longer.
>
> Nancy
>
>
>
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> From: "Marvin Hunkin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 12:27:53 +0930
> Subject: Review Accessability Of My Site
>
> --
> Check out my home page at http://startrekcafe.stevesdomain.net/
> Check out my Jaws Australia Group at
> http://groups.yahoo.com/groups/JawsOz/
>
> Hi.
> could some one take a look at my site and give me feedback, if you can
> read the text, blind and vision impaired users, if they can read the
> text, etc.
> and what other accessability features, i may need to put in, or
> general comments or feedback.
> cheers Marvin.
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> From: dwain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 22:17:22 -0500
> Subject: Re: [WSG] Review Accessability Of My Site
>
> On 4/6/08, Marvin Hunkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi.
> > could some one take a look at my site and give me feedback, if you can
> > read the text, blind and vision impaired users, if they can read the
> > text, etc.
> > and what other accessability features, i may need to put in, or
> > general comments or feedback.
> > cheers Marvin.
>
>
> marvin,
> check out these helpful tools they will help you answer some of your
> questions:
>
> http://www.alphaworks.ibm.com/tech/adesigner/download
>
> http://www.tawdis.net/taw3/cms/en ~ there's a free standalone program you
> can download here.
>
> dwain
>
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> "The artist may use any form which his expression demands;
> for his inner impulse must find suitable expression."  Kandinsky
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> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 11:40:11 +0100
> Subject: RE: [WSG] Dreamweaver8
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> > one thing I
> >miss about dreamweaver is that you can do a 'search all' and
> >get a list of all instances of the thing you are searching for
> >rather than cycling through a 'find...find...find...'
> >list. So far it's the only program I've used that does that
> >and I really notice not having it.
> >
>
> My favourite general-purpose text editor is UltraEdit, which does what
> you describe: returns a list of files containg your search string, and
> the entire line(s) that contain that string. It's not a web-specific
> tool, but does beat everything else I have tried to date.
>
> Regards,
> Mike
>
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> From: Adam Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 21:39:04 +1000
> Subject: Re: [WSG] Dreamweaver8
>
> as does zend studio :)
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>
> >
> >
> >> one thing I
> >> miss about dreamweaver is that you can do a 'search all' and
> >> get a list of all instances of the thing you are searching for
> >> rather than cycling through a 'find...find...find...'
> >> list. So far it's the only program I've used that does that
> >> and I really notice not having it.
> >>
> >>
> >
> > My favourite general-purpose text editor is UltraEdit, which does what
> > you describe: returns a list of files containg your search string, and
> > the entire line(s) that contain that string. It's not a web-specific
> > tool, but does beat everything else I have tried to date.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Mike
> >
> >
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> From: Jason Pruim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 08:08:17 -0400
> Subject: Re: [WSG] Dreamweaver8
>
>
> On Apr 7, 2008, at 7:39 AM, Adam Martin wrote:
> > as does zend studio :)
>
> XCode as well for all of you on a Mac :)
>
>
> >
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>
> >>
> >>> one thing I miss about dreamweaver is that you can do a 'search
> >>> all' and get a list of all instances of the thing you are
> >>> searching for rather than cycling through a 'find...find...find...'
> >>> list. So far it's the only program I've used that does that and I
> >>> really notice not having it.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> My favourite general-purpose text editor is UltraEdit, which does
> >> what
> >> you describe: returns a list of files containg your search string,
> >> and
> >> the entire line(s) that contain that string. It's not a web-specific
> >> tool, but does beat everything else I have tried to date.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Mike
> >>
> >>
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> From: John Hancock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 22:10:07 +1000
> Subject: Re: [WSG] Dreamweaver8
>
> Please, please, please everyone.
>
> Discuss web standards on the web standards group mailing list, and "my
> text/WYSIWY editor is better than yours" on the HTML Editors mailing
> list...
>
> If there isn't one, feel free to set it up.
>
> thanks,
>
> Grumpy John.
>
>
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> From: Mordechai Peller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 19:31:16 +0300
> Subject: Re: [WSG] Rogue text appears in IE6.
>
> Ted Drake wrote:
> > Removing comments from source code is a really bad idea for best
> > practices. Other people may have to work on your site and itâ¬"s a pain
> > to reverse-engineer code.
> Without a doubt, comments are good in any non-trivial *source code*, but
> that doesn't mean they should be served to the client.
>
>
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> From: "Thierry Koblentz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 09:36:41 -0700
> Subject: [article] How-to fix the ABBR element in IE lt 7
>
> I'd appreciate any comment that would help me improve this article:
> http://tjkdesign.com/articles/how-to_fix_the_ABBR_element.asp
>
> Thanks
> --
> Regards,
> Thierry | http://www.TJKDesign.com
>
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> From: Michael Horowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 14:05:05 -0400
> Subject: Re: [WSG] Dreamweaver8
>
> Actually a good part of a discussion is what editors best facilitate
> coding in standards.
>
> I think we need to focus the discussion on that facet.
>
>
> Michael Horowitz
> Your Computer Consultant
> http://yourcomputerconsultant.com
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>
>
>
> John Hancock wrote:
> > Please, please, please everyone.
> >
> > Discuss web standards on the web standards group mailing list, and "my
> > text/WYSIWY editor is better than yours" on the HTML Editors mailing
> > list...
> >
> > If there isn't one, feel free to set it up.
> >
> > thanks,
> >
> > Grumpy John.
> >
> >
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