*>> I've said it many times, MS try to outdo the competition and invent their own mad functions and methods of doing things. You have Mozilla that are promoting a standard and you have MS who are following (to some extent) the standard and also inventing their own.*
Maybe a few years ago but Microsoft are following standards much better these days and pass the ACID2 test with IE8. * >> What developer on this planet is going to take advantage of a feature thats been put into IE and not Mozilla, or any other browser engine for that matter. Thats like giving one user one thing and another user another.* But that's exactly why Microsoft are having the problems that they are ;o) A lot of developers DID take advantage of "features" of IE during the browser wars and because so many intranet's and business critical applications now rely on these systems, businesses can't upgrade for fear of breaking them, hence the reason why IE6 is taking so long to disappear. I fully believe that Microsoft are heading in the right direction though and whilst I don't agree with everything that Microsoft have done in the past, they are taking the right steps to improve the browser and are at least listening to the developer community. As I mentioned earlier though... Internet Explorer 8 beta 1 is NOT the final release of the browser and it will hopefully have bugs fixed when the final release hits the market. Use it for browsing the web, having a look at your sites, using its new features and reporting bugs back to Microsoft but it shouldn't be used for the production of websites just yet. Thanks Dave - - - - - http://www.dave-woods.co.uk 2008/4/29 James Jeffery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Ha Ha, i like name inferior explorer. Maybe someone should set up the > domain name and allow people to comment on I.E for MS to see. > > I've said it many times, MS try to outdo the competition and invent their > own mad functions and methods of doing things. You have Mozilla > that are promoting a standard and you have MS who are following (to some > extent) the standard and also inventing their own. > > What developer on this planet is going to take advantage of a feature > thats been put into IE and not Mozilla, or any other browser engine for > that matter. Thats like giving one user one thing and another user > another. > > They are going to slice their own heads off. > > I hate to get into the Unix vs. Windows debate but for reasons like this > and others related to MS inventing their own standards, Linux will > eventually take over. Didn't MS try to invent their own version of XML, or > something like that? I remember seeing a petition in college about > it. > > > > > On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 9:35 AM, Sam Sherlock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Ideas stuff and various work right off the bat with ff and opera > > tweaking ie can go on for weeks and often requires loads of compromises > > > > the list of issues with ie browsers hurts my noggin > > > > I can't see m$ using geko though (it would be admitting the competition > > is better) I wish they would, shame it would be better for everyone > > > > > > should be forever reffered to as inferior explorer :) > > - S > > > > 2008/4/29 James Jeffery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > Microsoft should save themselves all the hassle and use the Geko > > > engine. There IE still gets shipped with > > > every version of Windows. > > > > > > They have created a nice operating system for general users and by > > > changing their engine to an open source > > > one is not going to decrease sales in their O/S. > > > > > > This isn't the end of the IE bugs. I can put my house on it there will > > > be more to come. > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 9:04 AM, Sam Sherlock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > looks like another quagmire is about to open up; > > > > > > > > funny how I still feel that I am getting over ie6 > > > > > > > > 2008/4/29 Dave Woods <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > > > > Don't fix or change anything in your site to be compatible with a > > > > > beta version. > > > > > > > > > > The beta version is available so that developers can report > > > > > problems to Microsoft so that any bugs can be fixed for the final > > > > > release. > > > > > By changing your code now, you're likely to find that you'll need to > > > > > change > > > > > it again when the final release of IE8 is made available. > > > > > > > > > > If you're already getting a significant number of IE8 users (which > > > > > is probably unlikely) then do as Rahul suggests and use the meta tag > > > > > to > > > > > force IE7 rendering mode. > > > > > > > > > > Hope that helps? > > > > > > > > > > Dave > > > > > ---------- > > > > > http://www.dave-woods.co.uk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2008/4/29 Rahul Gonsalves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > > > > > > On 29-Apr-08, at 12:40 PM, Jens-Uwe Korff wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > we just did some testing of our sites in IE8 beta and got some > > > > > > > ahhhs and > > > > > > > ohhhs - not because of its standard compliance, rather because > > > > > > > all sites > > > > > > > seem to be broken: logos disappeared, elements misplaced, > > > > > > > Google maps > > > > > > > blown up, etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dare I say: > > > > > > <meta http-equiv="X-UA-Compatible" content="IE=7" /> > > > > > > > > > > > > Does that not give you enough time to fix the issues with the > > > > > > new layout engine and then remove it/set it to content="IE=8"? > > > > > > > > > > > > Or have I misunderstood how IE works? I frequently do. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > - Rahul. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ******************************************************************* > > > > > > List Guidelines: > > > > > > http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > > > > > > Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm > > > > > > Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > ******************************************************************* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ******************************************************************* > > > > > List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > > > > > Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm > > > > > Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > ******************************************************************* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ******************************************************************* > > > > List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > > > > Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm > > > > Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > ******************************************************************* > > > > > > > > > > > > > ******************************************************************* > > > List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > > > Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm > > > Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > ******************************************************************* > > > > > > > > > ******************************************************************* > > List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > > Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm > > Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ******************************************************************* > > > > > ******************************************************************* > List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm > Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ******************************************************************* > ******************************************************************* List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *******************************************************************
