On 7/5/08 1:37 PM, "Sam Sherlock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Using some unobstrusive js effects much the same (and or better) can be made
> without flash
> 
> http://simonwillison.net/static/2008/xtech/
> 
> which advises making a standard site that functions with basic html and
> present it with css, and then add additional functionality
> 
> not my own work but an example of the what I am talking about
> http://interiors.davroc.co.uk/
> 

That¹s a nice-looking site!

I guess all I was trying to say is that Flash is here and developers will
use it. I would never make a fully Flash website personally and I do think
it¹s a bad idea. But an occasional little bit of Flash is another matter
(imho), depending on the circumstances/requirements of the site and it¹s
owner.
 
Sometimes it sounds like people think it doesn¹t matter what a site looks
like as long as it is accessible.
But it does matter to the majority of people. I know that content is the
ultimate thing, but if the site isn¹t presented in an attractive manner then
a lot of (sighted) people won¹t stop to look. I personally would rarely
bother looking at a site that had no styles and/or looked like a Word
document or list or something. I don¹t think I¹m alone here! Most of us live
in a visual world. So we want/expect/need to see attractive things.

I am not for one second saying we shouldn¹t be making websites that are
accessible and easy to use for everyone. But I don¹t see that this means
that developers shouldn¹t use other technologies that may not be accessible
to everyone, as long as the main content of the website is accessible by the
users that the website is being developed for.

I¹m going to stop before a hail of comments come my way! And I¹m going to
try and refrain from extending this conversation ... <grin>

- susie


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