Hi Steven, thanks for the two links.

I am replying in a new thread because, after reading the "Too much accessibility - FIELDSET LEGENDS", I feel that it deserves to open a new thread for a new, hopefully more thorough discussion on Fieldset and Legend, and maybe to have a closer exmination that these two attributes are like the tabindex, accesskeys and titles, more harmful than useful.

The article was over 2 years old, while I am in full agreement with these:

The right way is to choose LEGEND text that is:

        • Concise: between 1 and 6 words.
        • Relevant: to every single form field in the FIELDSET.
• Seamless: in that the words chosen for the LEGEND should make sense when joined to each label phrase. This might take a bit more explanation, so read on and you’ll see why.

W3C said: "The LEGEND element allows authors to assign a caption to a FIELDSET"

No way in my right mind that I would ever think the legend will be read out by each set of label atrribute repetitive.

Quote BIM: I don’t see that the W3c intention and the JAWS screen reader implementation are necessarily at odds; JAWS has a “duty” to keep users informed that they are in the same group, and this is one way of achieving it.

Has a "duty" as being overly helpful that turns to absurdity and annoyance?

Does BIM a memebr here too? I am sorry, but I think his logic and reason are at fault.

An annoyance is an annoyance whether the legend is one word or 10 words long. One word of legend text, if repeated 10 times to me over and over on every page I visit. It's an annoyance.

This leads me to take a closer look on how I use the fieldset and legend; at a closer examination, I think I am going to remove fieldset and legend in that 'get shipping estimation' form and I will stop using fieldset and legend in forms that contain only a few inputs/ checkboxes/radio button.


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