Thanks for the detailed précis of the iinet situation.
Next time I get booked for speeding on the Sydney - Newcastle freeway, I think I'll sue the RTA. Well, after all, they provided me with the road....
;-)
Or maybe if you do speed, and don't get caught, then you can sue the Police for failing to enforce their "terms of service".
The IIA has been lobbying against filtering for yonks. See www.iia.net.au
Chris

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On 27/11/2008, at 11:50 PM, "Jelina Korhecz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I agree with Dave--a letter to Senator Conroy is the best approach.
The website previously mentioned (http://nocleanfeed.com/) is also a
good place to start if you want to take action.

I'm extremely concerned about this plan (and have been since I heard
about it a months ago) because at first it seemed like everyone in a
position of power thought it was a good idea... despite the fact that
their filtering trials clearly showed that a mandatory filter wasn't
feasible with the technology currently available.

Luckily (and I apologise if this has already been mentioned in a
previous email), iiNet--an Australian ISP--has signed up to the live
testing that is due to begin mid-December.  They have said that they
will take part in this test to demonstrate to the government how
ineffective an ISP level filter is at the present time.  You can check
out what they have to say about it on their website:
http://www.iinet.net.au/about/news/internet_filtering.html

Unfortunately, iiNet have received bad press lately because of a
lawsuit brought upon them by the AFACT (Australian Federation Against
Copyright Theft--see
http://www.lawfont.com/2008/11/21/the-case-against-iinet/ for more
info).  However, some are saying that this case and iiNet's position
on the mandatory filtering scheme are connected (which is why the
AFACT went after iiNet and not a larger ISP like Telstra Bigpond), but
I'll let you make your own mind up about the link between the two.
(See http://defendingscoundrels.com/2008/11/iinet-lawsuit-no-coincidence.html
for more.)

Don't get me wrong--anything that can stop something that is as
horrible as child porn I support.  But I honestly do not think this
has any chance of working.  Please do what you can to help stop this
filter going ahead.  Otherwise I might need to move countries  :(

My 2c  :)


On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 10:42 PM, IceKat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I wouldn't have sent this to the group if I'd had even the slightest idea it
was spam. Getup.org.au is a genuinely good site.

IceKat.



Brett Patterson wrote:

1) That, I do believe is a crock of shit!
2) If he does anything like that, he will be dead!!!

--and--

3) Anyone who believes in those ideas are fucked up, stupid, and this I
can promise, will NOT make it in this world, dead or alive!!!!!
4) Like I said, I think this a crock of shit, and possibly spam.

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  Hi,

  Usually I'm suspicious of this stuff but I happen to know that Get
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  Dear Helen,

  Imagine a government proposing an internet censorship system that
  went further than any other democracy - one that made the internet
  up to 87% slower, more expensive, accidentally blocked up to one
  in 12 legitimate sites, and missed the vast majority of
  inappropriate content.

  This is not China, Saudi Arabia or Iran - this is the vision of
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  Even when it comes to preventing child p-rnography, the filter
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  Thanks for being a part of the solution,
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