Sadly sites like these are the norm rather than the exception. From my experience working in web site compatibility anyway.

Can someone please send them http://www.opera.com/wsc ?

David

On 18 Jan 2009, at 00:07, David Lane wrote:

Ouch - yes, I'm a bit embarrassed for the EducationalNetworks crowd -
their own website, presumably their calling card, is also a dogs
breakfast from a web standards point of view - haven't looked at it much
beyond that.

I should point out that the sites I mentioned earlier in this thread -
the two a Hagley Community College (it's a high school, using college in
the English rather than American sense) were both designed to be XHTML
1.0 strict compliant. The main school site validates, and the computing one has 2 errors related to an image tag with a border attribute and no
alt text...  The teacher involved is a strong web standards advocate.

My suggestion to EducationalNeworks... try web standards - they're not
that hard.

Cheers,

Dave

On Sat, 2009-01-17 at 22:47 +0000, David Dixon wrote:
Perhaps the blatant disregard for common web standards could be the
reason? (this is after all a web *standards* list and not a web
designers list...)

Lets see:

- tables for layout
- no alt attributes for images
- obtrusive javascript (are "professional" companies really still
getting away with the default Dreamweaver rollers???)
- reliance on javascript for basic functionality
- the marquee tag ?!?....
- no form labels

So that's inaccessible, non-semantic and non-xhtml/html compliant

... im not sure i can stand to review any more of the site, the home
page is enough to kill my spirit.

David

Rick Faircloth wrote:
What did you find to be so bad about the site, Stuart?

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Perhaps the students should code the site - they couldn't do much worse!

On Fri, January 16, 2009 7:00 pm, Fred Ballard wrote:
Take a look at Sullivan High School's http:// www.sullivanhs.org/. As you
can
see in the homepage's lower right corner it's from the Chicago Public Schools, http://www.cps.k12.il.us/, with a company, Educational Networks,
http://www.educationalnetworks.net/, behind it.

Is it too slick? I'm of two minds. It's great that it's a good- looking
site,
but it might be nice to let the students be the designers. I don't
actually
know what the students think about it, on the other hand.

Fred

On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 8:29 PM, David Lane <d...@egressive.com> wrote:

Oops - should've been "Disclosure" rather than "Disclaimer" :)

On Fri, 2009-01-16 at 15:21 +1300, David Lane wrote:
Disclaimer: I've had occasional association with the work being done
at
Hagley, and have been a guest speaker to the computing students on a
couple occasions :)
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