I've just sent them a comment on their comment form (which wouldn't
submit unless I enabled javascript, although it had no noticeable need
for it) politely suggesting that they could improve their offerings
through increased adherence to web standards and accessibility
guidelines, providing them with links to this group.

Perhaps others would like to do similarly:
http://www.educationalnetworks.net/contact/

Cheers,

Dave

On Sun, 2009-01-18 at 00:18 +0100, David Storey wrote:
> Sadly sites like these are the norm rather than the exception.  From  
> my experience working in web site compatibility anyway.
> 
> Can someone please send them http://www.opera.com/wsc ?
> 
> David
> 
> On 18 Jan 2009, at 00:07, David Lane wrote:
> 
> > Ouch - yes, I'm a bit embarrassed for the EducationalNetworks crowd -
> > their own website, presumably their calling card, is also a dogs
> > breakfast from a web standards point of view - haven't looked at it  
> > much
> > beyond that.
> >
> > I should point out that the sites I mentioned earlier in this thread -
> > the two a Hagley Community College (it's a high school, using  
> > college in
> > the English rather than American sense) were both designed to be XHTML
> > 1.0 strict compliant.  The main school site validates, and the  
> > computing
> > one has 2 errors related to an image tag with a border attribute and  
> > no
> > alt text...  The teacher involved is a strong web standards advocate.
> >
> > My suggestion to EducationalNeworks... try web standards - they're not
> > that hard.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > On Sat, 2009-01-17 at 22:47 +0000, David Dixon wrote:
> >> Perhaps the blatant disregard for common web standards could be the
> >> reason? (this is after all a web *standards* list and not a web
> >> designers list...)
> >>
> >> Lets see:
> >>
> >> - tables for layout
> >> - no alt attributes for images
> >> - obtrusive javascript (are "professional" companies really still
> >> getting away with the default Dreamweaver rollers???)
> >> - reliance on javascript for basic functionality
> >> - the marquee tag ?!?....
> >> - no form labels
> >>
> >> So that's inaccessible, non-semantic and non-xhtml/html compliant
> >>
> >> ... im not sure i can stand to review any more of the site, the home
> >> page is enough to kill my spirit.
> >>
> >> David
> >>
> >> Rick Faircloth wrote:
> >>> What did you find to be so bad about the site, Stuart?
> >>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org 
> >>>> ] On Behalf Of Stuart
> >>> Foulstone
> >>>> Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 2:11 PM
> >>>> To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
> >>>> Subject: Re: [WSG] Examples of great high-school websites?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Perhaps the students should code the site - they couldn't do much  
> >>>> worse!
> >>>>
> >>>> On Fri, January 16, 2009 7:00 pm, Fred Ballard wrote:
> >>>>> Take a look at Sullivan High School's http:// 
> >>>>> www.sullivanhs.org/. As you
> >>>>> can
> >>>>> see in the homepage's lower right corner it's from the Chicago  
> >>>>> Public
> >>>>> Schools, http://www.cps.k12.il.us/, with a company, Educational  
> >>>>> Networks,
> >>>>> http://www.educationalnetworks.net/, behind it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Is it too slick? I'm of two minds. It's great that it's a good- 
> >>>>> looking
> >>>>> site,
> >>>>> but it might be nice to let the students be the designers. I don't
> >>>>> actually
> >>>>> know what the students think about it, on the other hand.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Fred
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 8:29 PM, David Lane <d...@egressive.com>  
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Oops - should've been "Disclosure" rather than "Disclaimer" :)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Fri, 2009-01-16 at 15:21 +1300, David Lane wrote:
> >>>>>>> Disclaimer: I've had occasional association with the work  
> >>>>>>> being done
> >>>>>> at
> >>>>>>> Hagley, and have been a guest speaker to the computing  
> >>>>>>> students on a
> >>>>>>> couple occasions :)
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