David, this is a variation on the logic that freed us all from the worst of
the IE quirks way back then.   IF you remember back then, most of us would
build our sites for IE5,  the drive ourselves crazy trying to put in hacks
for all the other browsers. (well **I** did anyway!)   That was until
someone came up with the simple strategy that was one of those
forehead-slapping moments .... 

Build for all the standards based browsers,  then add hacks for the quirks
of IE.   

DOH!! 


This is a bit like that.    Instead of trying to build a site with
hacks/quirks/switches for mobile,    build a site for mobile, with fall-back
for any  phones you don't detect to a standards based browser, and let them
scroll back and forth if necessary. 

SIMPLE. 

Worth following up, and I'll do some experiments with this in mind.   

Good thinking David. 




Cheers
Mike Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of David Hucklesby
Sent: Friday, 7 January 2011 5:00 PM


Rather than doing a "switch" for mobile agents, I read recently a
proposal to do basic styling for mobile first. Then filter "advanced"
styles for browsers, from smart phones to desktops that understand
@media queries, simply by declaring some @media filters at the bottom of
the style sheet.

I don't remember where I read it, but it seems to me to have other
advantages--old browsers like IE6 would only get the simple styles, too,
making it much easier to give IE6 visitors a pleasant experience without
the usual extensive "fix-ups" some layouts seem to need.

While I don't have a link to the original, very short article, the idea
has been taken up by others:

<http://www.slideshare.net/bryanrieger/rethinking-the-mobile-web-by-yiibu>

(If that breaks, try http://goo.gl/VqJE )

The downside is that neither IE7 nor IE8 understand @media queries. The
idea I am playing with uses Paul Irish's "Conditional stylesheets vs CSS
hacks" idea to filter rules for IE 6-8.

<http://paulirish.com/2008/conditional-stylesheets-vs-css-hacks-answer-neith
er/>

(Broken? try http://goo.gl/CRQY )

I'll certainly be interested in any other possibilities. I have not got
very far with this myself...

Cordially,
David




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