Just some food for thought. 

Some of these development builds could be compiled into a exe install
package once in a while and made available from the sourceforge site or
maybe a link from the WSJT home page or wsjtx.net for those who want to try
the new mode but are intimidated at installing JTSDK and building their own.
If you make it available from an "official" site, maybe it will discourage
3rd party users of doing it on their own.

73 Jay KA9CFD

-----Original Message-----
From: David Tiller [mailto:dtil...@captechconsulting.com] 
Sent: June 30, 2017 14:57
To: WSJT software development <wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] FT8 notes

All,

Since Joe mentioned revision 7754, I unofficially built it for OSX 10.9+ and
uploaded it here:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B4DphHV_ItCZbjZDdmt2NnR2cHc

If you're a macOS user, I'll try to keep recent builds in the same directory
(if that's ok w/ Joe, et al, re: unofficial builds).

--
David Tiller
Sr. Architect/Lead Consultant | CapTech
(804) 304-0638 | dtil...@captechconsulting.com



On Jun 30, 2017, at 10:45 AM, Joe Taylor <j...@princeton.edu> wrote:

> Hi Steve,
> 
> Yes, 40 iterations for bp.
> 
> With norder=2 hardwired for everything I still get 574 good decodes.  So
at least in jt9.exe, with no attempt to move nfqso around, using norder=3
produces no more decodes.
> 
> Here are the timer results with norder=2:
> 
> Name                 Time  Frac     dTime dFrac    Calls
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> jt9                33.832  1.00     0.691  0.02        1
>  read_wav           0.164  0.00     0.164  0.00    27404
>  decft8            32.977  0.97     0.055  0.00      527
>   sync8             4.148  0.12     4.148  0.12      527
>   ft8b             28.773  0.85     0.090  0.00     2821
>    bpd174           1.641  0.05     1.641  0.05     2821
>    osd174          27.043  0.80    27.043  0.80     2210
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>                                    33.832  1.00
> 
>       -- Joe
> 
> On 6/30/2017 10:34 AM, Steven Franke wrote:
>> Joe,
>> Were these results obtained with 40 iterations for bp and norder = 3 for
signals at or within 10 Hz of nfqso? If so, it might be interesting to see
how the numbers would change if you dropped back to norder=2 for all
signals.
>> Steve
>>> On Jun 30, 2017, at 9:25 AM, Joe Taylor <j...@princeton.edu> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Thanks for a busy ~20 hours of many people testing FT8.  I now have
accumulated a directory with 527 *.wav files, each of which has at least one
visible FT8 signal.  The files were recorded at K1JT at either 14.079 or
50.313 MHz.
>>> 
>>> Running the r7753 stand-alone slow-mode decoder jt9[.exe] on this
collection of files produces 574 valid decodes and 0 false decodes with
total execution time 39.8 s.  The average time to process a 15 s Rx sequence
on this machine (Core i7-6700 @ 3.4 GHz) is thus 39.8/527 = 0.076 s.  Not
bad!
>>> 
>>> Here's the detailed execution-time breakdown from timer.out:
>>> 
>>> Name                 Time  Frac     dTime dFrac    Calls
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>> jt9                39.828  1.00     0.734  0.02        1
>>>  read_wav           0.121  0.00     0.121  0.00    27404
>>>  decft8            38.973  0.98     0.133  0.00      527
>>>   sync8             4.191  0.11     4.191  0.11      527
>>>   ft8b             34.648  0.87     0.051  0.00     2821
>>>    bpd174           1.480  0.04     1.480  0.04     2821
>>>    osd174          33.117  0.83    33.117  0.83     2210
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>>                                    39.828  1.00
>>> 
>>> Note that 83% of the execution time is spent in routine osd174, 11% in
sync8, and 4% in bpd174 (a contraction for subroutine name bpdecode174).
>>> 
>>> It turns out that only 14 of the 574 decodes were produced by osd174,
the "ordered statistics" decoder.  The rest came from bpd174.  With osd174
deactivated, timer.out looks like this:
>>> 
>>> Name                 Time  Frac     dTime dFrac    Calls
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>> jt9                 6.641  1.00     0.891  0.13        1
>>>  read_wav           0.168  0.03     0.168  0.03    27404
>>>  decft8             5.582  0.84     0.094  0.01      527
>>>   sync8             3.887  0.59     3.887  0.59      527
>>>   ft8b              1.602  0.24     0.109  0.02     2821
>>>    bpd174           1.492  0.22     1.492  0.22     2821
>>>    osd174           0.000  0.00     0.000  0.00     2210
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>>                                     6.641  1.00
>>> 
>>> Now the average execution time for a 15 s Rx sequence is just 13 ms!
>>> 
>>> We need to keep decoding time very short -- say, well under 1 s -- so
that auto-sequencing, if not the human operator, can select proper responses
to received messages.  Fortunately, we already have good baseline
performance -- and we have a number of "knobs" to play with.
>>> 
>>>     -- Joe, K1JT
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