It won't be required (cw ID) once the software is released to the public. At least in USA as far as FCC is concerned, no?

I never is the cw ID


On 7/5/2017 6:22 PM, Richard Bown wrote:
Hi
I'm a bit confused with pandanticity of the CW ident.
the classification of the speed of sending morse is weird anyway.
definition of a word ???? definition of a character ????
Why not just take the longest word in the dictionary , multiply that by 20, and 
count up all the
letters, I guess someone will want to take the mean average of between an E and 
probably a J
so with that you can wind the wick up until you you can send all the characters 
in your callsign in
a couple of seconds.
If its going to be read by any gov agency it will be machine read anyway
antidisestablishmentarianism , that was the longest when I was at school
73


On Wed, 5 Jul 2017 21:46:16 +0000
David Tiller <dtil...@captechconsulting.com> wrote:

If you knew you had to send an ID with a packet, could you not reduce the 
amplitude of the whole
data packet by a db or so and re-allocate that power to the CW ID? It certainly 
doesn't have to
be loud, much like repeaters do id-under-voice. That way the FT8 signal taken 
by itself would
still be constant envelope, and the CW id could be sent way down at 
FDial+100Hz. If the OOK
nature of CW is the issue, you could always treat it as FSK using 1 Hz and 
100Hz. The 1Hz
component would get chopped out in the radio, leaving the ID and FT8 signal.


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David Tiller
Sr. Architect/Lead Consultant | CapTech
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On Jul 5, 2017, at 5:29 PM, Richard Lamont <rich...@lamont.me.uk> wrote:

On 05/07/17 22:10, David Tiller wrote:
Any chance of having the CW id run concurrently with a data packet, perhaps at 
fDial + 100 Hz
or so? It'd meet the id requirement without interfering with QSOs.
Doing it concurrently wouldn't be compatible with FT8 being a 'constant
envelope' mode.

73,
Richard G4DYA

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