If people don't understand the term "hijack", and consider being "DX" the
right to trash existing digital watering holes, above all other
considerations, then I have no idea what more I can contribute to this
conversation, but I'll try, one last time.
Indeed, no one "owns" a frequency, but conventions were established to
protect the individual digital modes, so things didn't turn into a free for
all, and the merits of the modes, not to mention the enjoyment of using
them, could be explored.
DXp ignores these conventions...*and certainly there are situations and
justifications for doing just that.* Overuse of this "feature", however,
will be a scourge on the digital sub-bands.
Don't get me wrong, I love FT8. I think DXp is one of the neatest ideas
I've ever seen. But the indifferent disregard of established norms,
....creating a mode of operation that is CERTAIN to cause major issues
...and then walking away with "warning not to misuse it", or relegating the
problems caused by this to "Amateur Radio Societies"...irresponsible.
I'm done with this....as a wise person once said to me
"If you have no shame, do whatever you like."
73, N0AN
Otherwise, it's not a mode. It's a virus.
Hasan
On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 7:25 AM, James Shaver <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Bill - they're not just "testing" they're trouncing on existing digital
> mode watering holes without any real regard to anyone around them. The
> lack
> of consideration to others is simply astounding.
>
> I've said my peace on this.
>
> Jim S.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill Somerville [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 8:13 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] DXpedition mode: dissapointed somehow
>
> On 14/03/2018 10:24, James Shaver (N2ADV) wrote:
> > TY7C should not have even been using DXPedition Mode.
>
> Hi Jim,
>
> why not?
>
> https://ty2018dx.wordpress.com/
>
> and check their QRZ.COM page.
>
> They are not some random OM playing with FT8 DXpedition mode on the normal
> FT8 sub-bands. Benin may not be in the top 10 most wanted list but that's
> fine. If a DXpedition team want to try out FT8 DXpedition mode and are
> fully
> aware of the caveats about making sure that callers know how to work them
> etc. then their brave attempt to try out an as yet unpolished feature of
> WSJT-X is fine. They may lose some QSOs as a result but they may well
> provide valuable feedback. It is a little unfortunate that their operation
> dates coincide with a version of WSJT-X
> (v1.9.0-rc2) that has several known defects, picked up in the public tests
> recently, that have been fixed but not yet released.
>
> With respect to Uwe's disappointment, I'm not sure if the F6KOP team have
> limited power or are just starting cautiously with only one Tx slot. They
> can still potentially complete 120 QSOs/hr with one slot.
> Note that using N slots greater than one means reduced power per QSO with
> signals being ~14dB down with N slots equal to five. I note in their blog
> post that they are having success with FT8 DXpedition mode but find they
> are
> hearing callers better than they are being heard, possibly as a result of
> trying N slots > 1.
>
> 73
> Bill
> G4WJS.
>
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