Due to unforeseen circumstances I cannot take part in the tests April 7. To the 
development team: Sometimes you get an offer you cannot refuse. I think this is 
one of those times and I hope you will give Grant’s offer serious 
consideration. 

Tom OH6VDA / JW6VDA

> 30. mar. 2018 kl. 00:20 skrev Grant Willis <vk...@bigpond.com>:
> 
> Joe,
> 
> I am new to this list (having only realised it was open for me to subscribe 
> to this week). I was also one of those pesky DXPedition stations who wanted 
> to (and originally had intended to) use Expedition mode pre-GA when I reach 
> Vanuatu on the 16th of April. 
> 
> I've now, out of respect of your now very clearly stated wishes this morning, 
> made the decision that there will be no use of expedition mode from YJ0AG 
> unless there is a GA release (which isn’t expected before the close of the 
> expedition).. (see http://vk5gr-iota.net).
> 
> Having said that, if the testing team were willing to allow me to join in the 
> testing effort, I would be more than willing to run it as part of an extended 
> test from Vanuatu (only if you agreed). I would only, however, offer to do 
> this if it could be structured in such a way as to be beneficial to the team 
> here. 
> 
> I see this as a real world opportunity to evaluate just how it will react 
> over a wide variety of bands, propagation types and times of day. This 
> suggestion is made with the knowledge that the user community will not behave 
> and will use the wrong version of software, not set the right mode, not set 
> their CAT controls etc etc. I feel that those inputs are in fact valid 
> considerations for any Beta test. The earlier versions of the software are 
> out there now and in a real world situation you will not be able to avoid 
> those operator errors. Consider it destructive testing. Surely it would be 
> worthwhile to consider all the bad things it does as well as the good in 
> finalising the design?
> 
> Of course, I would take all measures necessary to collect whatever logging 
> and evidence your team requires in support of the testing. Ideally, (internet 
> connectivity permitting) my intention would be to send you those logs whilst 
> I am still on Vanuatu.
> 
> Please give my request to participate in the project some consideration. I am 
> not a coder, but my observation and testing skills hopefully could make a 
> worthwhile contribution if the team was willing to include me.
> 
> Regards,
> Grant VK5GR / E6AG / YJ0AG - IOTA DXPeditioner
> 
> P.S. I realise I am unknown to this team. I offer the following  to perhaps 
> set the tone for my request more properly: 
> 
> * I have worked professionally in the cellular telecoms engineering arena for 
> over 25 years and more recently systems architecture areas. I have in that 
> time been involved in complex software development processes (albeit not down 
> at coding level) in particularly around high level requirements and test plan 
> design and execution.
> 
> * I have been active in digital modes within the hobby for over 30 years 
> having operated AX.25 networks, RTTY and PSK extensively as well as JT65, 
> FT8, JT9 and others.
> 
> * I have backgrounds in IARU (I was the VK liaison for a number of years) and 
> HF/VHF/UHF Band Planning through my previous engagements on the technical 
> advisory board of the WIA. Though this work perhaps I could also offer some 
> commentary and feedback on frequency selection. You will note from my blog I 
> have elected to use alternate frequencies that differ from your proposals. I 
> am happy to discuss my choices and justifications down the track.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe Taylor [mailto:j...@princeton.edu] 
> Sent: Friday, 30 March 2018 5:46 AM
> To: WSJT software development
> Subject: [wsjt-devel] Premature use of FT8 DXpedition Mode
> 
> Everyone paying attention should already know what's contained in this 
> message -- but it's clear that some do not.
> 
> The current General Availability (GA) release of WSJT-X is v1.8.0.  That 
> program version does not include FT8 DXpedition Mode.
> 
> We have made beta-level "release candidates" available for the explicit 
> purpose of testing FT8 DXpedition Mode.  The release candidates have included 
> cautionary warnings to the effect that in its present form, DXpedition Mode 
> should be used only for controlled testing.
> 
> A few operators or groups have ignored our warnings and tried to use FT8 
> DXpedition Mode in true pileup situations.  The consequences are predictably 
> bad -- especially when the offending operator(s) have chosen their 
> frequencies badly and other operators are using a mix of program versions 
> including v1.8.0, v1.9.0-rc2, v1.9.0-rc3, some version of JTDX.
> 
> FT8 DXpedition Mode is not yet ready for “production” use. Until WSJT-X
> v1.9.0 is fully released -- not a beta-level "release candidate", but a full 
> General Availability release -- DXpedition Mode should be used only in 
> controlled test situations.
> 
> The next public test of FT8 DXpedition Mode conducted by the WSJT Development 
> Group will be conducted on April 7, a little over a week from now.  You are 
> cordially invited to join us for this test.  See the announcement posted here 
> yesterday (Subject: WSJT-X v1.9.0-rc3: Testing of FT8 DXpedition Mode) for 
> details.
> 
>    -- 73, Joe, K1JT
> 
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