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>   1. Re: compound callsigns and grid square (Mike Maynard)
>   2. Re: Error Loading LotW Users Data (Joe Taylor)
>   3. Re: compound callsigns and grid square (Bill Somerville)
>   4. New UDP Protocol Formats in WSJT-X_V2.0 - Info please
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> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2018 14:41:38 -0500
> From: Mike Maynard <m...@k2gc.net>
> To: WSJT software development <wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
> Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] compound callsigns and grid square
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> Ok, so explain to me why K2GC/P formats properly?
> 
> I could certainly understand the issue more if my callsign were longer...
> but with such a short callsign I am not sure why all this 'making it fit'
> comes into play.
> 
> furthermore,  so how is one supposed to operate?   do I just call cq with
> no grid, and the software will out it in the exchange later?
> 
>> On Tue, Dec 11, 2018, 9:49 AM Bill Somerville <g4...@classdesign.com wrote:
>> 
>> On 11/12/2018 01:41, Mike Maynard wrote:
>> 
>> So I installed v2.0 GA on my 'mobile' setup today.  I no longer have a
>> grid square in my standard messages with /M on my callsign.
>> 
>> If I just put in my base callsign the grid square shows up fine.  once I
>> change to K2GC/M the grid square drops out.
>> 
>> Tried it on my shack setup too (also 2.0GA) and it does the same thing.
>> 
>> this was a non-issue in 1.9.1   Did I miss something? or is this a bug?
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Mike
>> K2GC
>> www.k2gc.net
>> 
>> Hi Mike,
>> 
>> in the new 77-bit payload FT8 and MSK144 messages the handling of
>> callsigns has been unified, there are three ways of inserting a callsign
>> into a standard form message, either a standard callsign, a complex
>> callsign, or a hash code representing the callsign. Complex callsigns
>> include compound callsigns, longer callsigns that don't fit the WSJT-X
>> standard callsign pattern and those including standard suffixes like /M.
>> Note that all of these complex callsigns are now treated uniformly, there
>> are no type-1 or type-2 compound callsigns with the 77-bit messages. The
>> CQ, QRZ and similar words count as a standard callsign. The message can
>> contain two callsigns and some extra information except when one of the
>> callsigns is a complex callsign. The extra information can be a
>> grid-square, a report, a R-report, RRR, RR73, or 73. So that reports can be
>> exchanged with both callsigns printed when a complex callsign is involved,
>> one callsign can be represented by a hash code which uses less payload bits
>> than the callsign in full, this leaves space for one of a RRR, RR73, 73,
>> report, R-report, or a grid, but note that for the last three (reports or
>> grid) the complex callsign must be the one sent as a hash.
>> 
>> So, given the above, a CQ message with a complex callsign cannot include a
>> grid-square because the only way to do so would be to replace the callsign
>> with a hash code and that will not work as hash codes can only be converted
>> to callsigns at the receiving end if the callsign has previously been
>> decoded and even then there may be two or more callsigns that map to the
>> same hash code, the hash codes have a one to many (actually one to few)
>> relationship with the callsigns they represent and where two or more
>> callsigns of interest map to the same hash code is what is known as a hash
>> collision.
>> 
>> The bottom line is that special handling of basic suffixes like /M /P /A
>> /1 /2 ... /0 and other specified prefixes that had special encoding in the
>> 75-bit message format (type 1 compound callsigns) have been sacrificed to
>> allow message space for a uniform approach that works for vastly more
>> variations of complex callsigns including those originally covered by
>> type-1 special cases.
>> 
>> You can send a message to you QSO partner including your grid square but
>> it must be of the following form:
>> 
>> G4WJS <K2GC/M> FN03
>> 
>> this is fine once a QSO has started, you could sign off with it for
>> example, because your full call would have been sent earlier in the QSO and
>> your QSO partner and anyone listening will have the correct hash code
>> mapping to decode the message as shown above. Anyone not having the hash
>> code would receive the message above as:
>> 
>> G4WJS <...> FN03
>> 
>> which is not much good to them. In the same way that sending:
>> 
>> CQ <K2GC/M> FN03
>> 
>> would not be any use and in this case we even flag it as a bad message and
>> don't allow it to be sent.
>> 
>> Just to complete the picture with complex callsigns, there are a couple of
>> special cases for the NA and EU VHF contest modes that allow /R and /P
>> respectively since these are necessary for many stations in such contests.
>> 
>> 73
>> Bill
>> G4WJS.
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> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2018 14:53:24 -0500
> From: Joe Taylor <j...@princeton.edu>
> To: WSJT software development <wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
> Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Error Loading LotW Users Data
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>> On 12/11/2018 2:25 PM, Greg Gilbert KN4APC wrote:
>> What is the fix for this?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Greg KN4APC
> 
> New Year's Resolution:
> 
> "Before posting a question on setup or usage of WSJT-X I will check the 
> WSJT-X 2.0 User Guide and look for similar queries on the same reflector."
> 
> In this particular case, an installation problem under Windows, try 
> looking at Section 3.1, "Installation: Windows":
> 
> http://www.physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/wsjtx-doc/wsjtx-main-2.0.0.html#INSTALL
> 
>    --Joe, K1JT
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2018 19:58:27 +0000
> From: Bill Somerville <g4...@classdesign.com>
> To: wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] compound callsigns and grid square
> Message-ID: <172f64e4-9086-4020-3294-ffac4ffef...@classdesign.com>
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>> On 11/12/2018 19:41, Mike Maynard wrote:
>> Ok, so explain to me why K2GC/P formats properly?
>> 
>> I could certainly understand the issue more if my callsign were 
>> longer...? ?but with such a short callsign I am not sure why all this 
>> 'making it fit' comes into play.
>> 
>> furthermore, so how is one supposed to operate?? ?do I just call cq 
>> with no grid, and the software will out it in the exchange later?
> 
> Hi Mike,
> 
> good questions. For the first I need to check message source encoding 
> routine, it may be that /P is allowed, it appears to be so although I 
> have not tested it end to end.
> 
> For the second, yes. Any station with a complex callsign, possibly 
> excluding /P suffixes, cannot send CQ with a grid-square.
> 
> 73
> Bill
> G4WJS.
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> From: Dr. Alwin G?desen <i...@turbolog.de>
> To: WSJT software development <wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
> Subject: [wsjt-devel] New UDP Protocol Formats in WSJT-X_V2.0 - Info
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> Dear Development Team,
> 
> ... could someone please direct me to the documentation of the new UDP 
> protocol formats 
> used in WSJT-X_V2.0?
> I need the QSO logging protocol in particular in order to externally process 
> the new 
> contest exchange variables.
> Thanks in advance.
> Vy 73:
> Alwin/DJ9KG
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