On 3/22/2019 12:58 PM, Wolfgang wrote:
In SSB the 'bad guys' are the ones yelling endless, even if they
don't hear the DX. And now in FT8 we try to blame the DX beeing
'the 'bad guys' ??? Chasing DX is like a race, we have some
winners and some... who do not make it;-)

Btw., there is a lot of guesswork how 'the clones' are working!

Not nearly as well as those using WSJT-X's DXpedition Mode, primarily because it's FAR more than multi-reply.

The real genius of WSJT-X DXpedition mode is in the segregation of Hounds above 1,000 Hz, reserving spectrum below that for the Hounds the Fox is working, and moving the caller into that region to send their report. The result is that, once the Hound has been called by the Fox, it rarely takes more than one or two TX cycles to get RR73 because the Hound is in the QRM-free zone! And in WSJT-X DXpedition mode, Hounds are ENCOURAGED to call continuously -- but ONLY above 1,000 Hz.

One of the problems with FT8-clones that DON'T operate this way is that Hounds call anywhere, even when the DXpedition is using WSJT-X.

Bottom line -- I have a real problem with both developers and users FT8 clone software that does only part of the job and encourages bad habits.

73, Jim K9YC


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