However, 59 or 599 serves the human brain as a very good synchronizing sound, so that we can easily copy the "real" exchange that come after it. At least it does for me, especially on CW.

73 -- Larry -- W1DYJ




-----Original Message----- From: Ed Muns
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 16:32
To: 'John Kludt'
Cc: 'WSJT-Dev'
Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Contest confusion

Hi John.

Excellent question! In most instances today RST is meaningless, whether contesting, DXing or everyday operating. However, there are still some of us old-timers who learned ham radio with true RST reports. We were educated about the meaning of each number and tried to apply the appropriate RST to each report which was a key part of the first transmission in each QSO.

Over the ensuing decades RST has evolved to a perfunctory '599' in most QSOs. Sometimes we're too embarrassed to send '599' when we're struggling to finish a weak DX QSO and we will sent '559' or '229' or whatever. Mostly, it is a mindless '599'. Now, with WSJT-X we have true, accurate SNR and it's still mindless, in the sense that we don't have to think about it. The software determines the correct SNR.

Thus, ham radio has a free opportunity to return to its roots when RST was meaningful and exchange meaningful SNR reports. Readability and Tone don't have much value in the WSJT-X modes, but signal strength adds interest and some substance to each QSO. I'm a strong advocate of supporting SNR in WSJT-X QSOs.

Ed W0YK

-----Original Message-----
From: John Kludt <johnnykl...@gmail.com>
Sent: 22 July, 2019 03:34
To: e...@w0yk.com
Cc: WSJT-Dev <wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Contest confusion

Ed,

I have only one question - what is so sacred about a signal report? Most are bogus, anyway. Our old section manager used to laugh about "You are 59 or 599" frequently followed by "again, again."

John

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On Jul 22, 2019 00:01, Ed Muns <e...@w0yk.com> wrote:

Great tip, Laurie.

This is a good technique if one can reasonably assume that the majority of
QSO partners sending a signal report will not complete the QSO, or log it,
if the contester only sends a Grid Square.

IOW, if a contester set to NA VHF Contest mode connects up with a
"non-contester" set to normal mode (Special Activity unchecked), and both
are configured for Auto Seq, then the QSO will complete without any operator intervention. However, the contester will not have sent a signal report to
the non-contester.  That may be an issue, because the non-contester may
continue to send his SNR message, hoping to elicit an SNR in return. Or, he may not log the contact because he never received an SNR from the contester.
This may not be a problem for the contester, because the non-contester is
unlikely to submit a Cabrillo log, so the contester will avoid a NIL.

Back to your tip of setting up two instances of WSJT-X, one with NA VHF
Contest mode enabled and one with Special Activity unchecked.  This is a
good technique for the contester to get another QSO in the log that
otherwise would not happen, IF the assumption is the majority of "mixed"
QSOs as described above will not complete successfully because the
non-contester is concerned that he didn't receive a signal report.

The contester has to decide whether to power through the QSO in the NA VHF
Contest mode, or to on-the-fly switch to his "SNR Configuration" that uses
the standard non-contest message sequence and indeed sends an SNR message to
the non-contester.

Ed W0YK

-----Original Message----- From: Laurie, VK3AMA <_vk3a...@vkdxer.net>
Sent: 21 July, 2019 16:04
To: wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Contest confusion

On 22/07/2019 7:16 am, Jim Brown wrote:
> so I quickly switched out of contest mode to work him. :)
>
> What I WOULD like is to able to do this without going to Settings
> Advanced. All those clicks loses a TX cycle.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC

Simple and only requires a single mouse click. Setup two configurations
in WSJT-X, one for you desired contest and the other non-contest. Once
setup, it is a single click using the "Configuration" menu to switch
between contest and non-contest.

de Laurie VK3AMA



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