There is an ongoing debate on confusion when a contester and a non contester try to work each other as one or both does not receive the expected data, that may be a report, a serial number, a full grid, state or get a warning flag about 'VHF contest mode'.
As I suggested during my flight on a DXpedition to American Samoa in April this confusion can be avoided. The autosequence should simply be so that each station sends the reporting the other station wants. No warning flags needed and everyone gets the expected answer without any confusion. This may be easier said than done, but it should not be that difficult: 1. The calling station requests the data needed from the other station and the other station sends that data. 2. The called station requests the data needed from the other station and the answering station sends that data. 3. This requires that the Menu>File>Settings>General must have all possible exchanges like 6-digit Grid, FD Exch, RTTY RU Exch or 4-digit serial number filled out. Then WSJT-X at every station has all the data that could possibly be requested and exchanged. This proposal has been rejected with the argument that WSJT-X should not have guessing or automation built in. However WSJT-X has already similar automation built in like automatic switching to contest mode and setting warning flags about contest modes like EU VHF contest and that implementation results in confusion. On SSB it it easy to ask the other station for state, serial number, zone or what is wanted and a polite QSO-partner will quickly give that data. WSJT-X should be similar polite resulting in fast QSO's without confusion. 73, Palle, OZ1RH. On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 12:13 AM Palle Preben-Hansen, OZ1RH <pa...@oz1rh.com> wrote: > Hi, > > People are using EU VHF if they are in a contest requiring either a serial > number and/or the full 6-digit locator. This is required in the major VHF > contests in Europe. Many contests on HF also requires a serial number, so > this feature applies to more than just EU VHF. > > I suggest the labeling on the Settings page is split into two saying: > "I need an exchange with serial number" > "I need an exchange with a 6-digit locator" > > When a station calls CQ with one or both of these options set, FT8 of the > answering station should just transmit the requested exchange. No need for > flashing a anything about a particular contest mode. > > If you have one or both of these options set and you call a station his > FT8 should send you the requested exchange. > > The logic should be that you request the exchange you need and you get it > without intervention from the other station. This should keep all happy and > you only transmit the exchanges needed by the other station. > > This logic should be used for all kind of supported exchanges, e.g. also > the one for NA fieldday. It could also work the other way around: if a > station does not need your locator - transmit only what the other station > requests (though at present the abbreviated 4-digit locator is inherited in > the protocol). > > If a serial number is requested from you and you did not set a starting > serial number in your settings, your FT8 should just send 0001. To make > sure everyone is able to send the full 6-digit locator this should always > be set in Settings. > > 73, Palle, OZ1RH. > > - written on a Hawaiian Airlines plane on route to KH8, see kh8.oz0j.dk >
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