You're still wrong.
It isn't at all a lack of ethics to use the software ... only to use the
software for full automatic AND UNATTENDED operation. It isn't
unethical (or illegal) to use the software in full automatic mode if a
licensed operator is in attendance ... it's only unethical to use it
that way in a contest that prohibits it, and there is at least one
contest that allows it if you declare it.
I have no intention of using the software for automatic AND UNATTENDED
operation, but as other here have pointed out WSJT-z has a pretty nice
UI with much better use of space for FT8 than does WSJT-X, and therefore
I MIGHT decide to use it for normal operation (attended and not
automatic). I would be perfectly legal (and completely ethical) in
doing so, just as if I was using a 5,000 watt amplifier without running
it harder than 1,500 watts.
Dave AB7E
On 8/18/2019 7:16 PM, Neil Zampella wrote:
I was planning to, considering that no one can see the lack of ethics
in adding code to make an automatic QSO machine. Using the fact that
I called the software 'illegal' instead of looking at the fact that it
can enable an illegal 'full auto' machine points that out.
On 8/18/2019 10:03 PM, David Gilbert wrote:
You're changing your story now. Your previous messages simply said
the software itself was illegal, and when I challenged that your
argued the point and said I was rationalizing.
Just give it up, OK?
Dave AB7E
On 8/18/2019 6:12 PM, Neil Zampella wrote:
By the software being 'illegal' I mean that it has the capability to
allow an illegal act to be performed. I agree, the use of such
software is illegal, having the software is not, however, the mere
fact that it does have the capability to be used as a bot for
automatic, non-attended QSOs should make anyone think twice about
having this software available for download.
Your claiming that I don't know what I'm talking about is a
rationalization in itself.
Neil, KN3ILZ
On 8/18/2019 9:52 AM, David Gilbert wrote:
No, the software by itself is not illegal. The software is capable
of unattended operation, but it isn't illegal unless it is used in
that way.
I can let someone who isn't licensed use my station while I am not
even in the U.S., but neither I nor my station is performing an
illegal act unless I do that.
I can own an amplifier that is capable of putting out 5,000 watts,
but it isn't illegal unless I run it harder than 1,500 watts.
You really don't know what you're talking about, and it has nothing
to do with me rationalizing anything.
Dave AB7E
On 8/18/2019 3:56 AM, Neil Zampella wrote:
"Man is not a rational animal, but a rationalizing one!"
The program is designed to make QSOs without someone being there.
Illegal in the US, the person who put the program together could
have removed the code and left the UI. He didn't, and added a
'legal notice' which is worth the paper it's not printed on.
Neil, KN3ILZ
On 8/17/2019 1:54 PM, David Gilbert wrote:
The guy who made that claim didn't know what he was talking
about. Automatic is not the same thing as unattended.
73,
Dave AB7E
On 8/17/2019 10:07 AM, Andy Durbin wrote:
"This is illegal software in the US and probably elsewhere, and
should
not be used, even with the added line "always attend to your
transceive
when using" this does not make it legal."
What specific FCC regulations permit a single QSO to be auto
sequenced but prohibit auto sequencing of 2 or more QSO?
I had been under the impression that disallowing auto QSO
sequencing was a preference of the developers so, if it is
illegal, I'd appreciate a reference. I can legally allow an
unlicensed operator to make my QSO but I can't allow a
supervised computer to do it?
Before you all jump on me - I have no interest in running an
automatic QSO machine. I'm only interested in the regulatory
aspect of this.
73,
Andy, k3wyc
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