Steve,

Sorry that is my mistake. It was an incorrect memory based on when I was
reviewing the ALL.TXT file trying to find broken log records when we got
home after A35JT. (I had discovered that ALL.TXT didnt store the TX strings
from the FOX transmissions - instead it only stored one string and  not the
contents of the up to 5 FOX TX channels). I incorrectly turned my
conclusion of 5 weeks ago that ALL.TXT was incomplete when it came to
tracing broken log entries into the incorrect memory/assumption that
ALL.TXT didnt have the fox band activity data in it at all.

My apologies for making an invalid later assumption that ALL.TXT didnt have
FOX channel traffic at all. Goes to show one should never assume anything
as it makes one look like an ASS - sorry about that. An unnecessary
distraction to the real debate about band activity visualisation in FOX
mode.

So to clarify - ALL.TXT does appear to log the FOX Channel receive activity
and running a tail job in a separate window would provide band activity
monitoring needed to detect channel collisions.

The debate however then becomes is that something that the majority of FOX
operators would know how to do? My suggestion is that it isn't. Finding a
better solution to warning FOX operators that there are people on their
channel calling other expeditions is still very important in my mind.
Taking rows from the Band activity where the FOX station callsign is not
even present and putting them into the RX activity window would be a good
start to enabling a channel self monitoring function inside the software
IMHO.

As an aside - looking back at ALL.TXT - it does raise a point. The contents
of the TX channels that are sent over the air in FOX mode are not being
recorded in ALL.TXT currently. Is that by design or is that a BUG?

In fact it is very strange that RX records are still being written when I
an transmitting in the next cycle. I enclose a sample of my ALL.TXT file
here. It might reveal more of whats going on? I can send the whole file
along with the FOXQSO.TXT file if it would help try to get a handle on
whats actually going on with ALL.TXT?

190929_003930    14.067 Rx FT8     -2  0.0 1895 A35JT VK5BC PF95
190929_003930    14.067 Tx FT8      0  0.0  538 VK3BDX A35JT RR73
 <-- I answered more than VK3BDX in this over
190929_003930    14.067 Rx FT8     -2  0.4 2112 A35JT 6K5YIA PM45
<--  am still receiving even though my TX is up for the next over?
190929_003930    14.067 Rx FT8     11 -0.0 2294 A35JT XE1TD DL80
190929_003930    14.067 Rx FT8      9  0.0 2460 A35JT VE7SV CN99
190929_003930    14.067 Rx FT8    -14  0.0 2972 A35JT N5WXY R-09
190929_003930    14.067 Rx FT8      3  0.0 3071 A35JT JH0INP PM96
190929_003930    14.067 Rx FT8    -14  0.2 1037 A35JT VK3GWS QF22
190929_003930    14.067 Rx FT8     -8  0.1 1088 A35JT JG3KLF PM74
190929_003930    14.067 Rx FT8    -19  0.0 1544 A35JT N2AJ FN30
190929_003945    14.067 Rx FT8     -4  0.0 1019 A35JT K9NU EN55
190929_003945    14.067 Rx FT8     -9  0.1 1088 A35JT JG3KLF PM74
190929_003945    14.067 Rx FT8     -4  0.1 1274 A35JT W7DN CN85
190929_003945    14.067 Rx FT8    -10  0.4 1337 A35JT KI5BLU CN87
190929_003945    14.067 Rx FT8      5  0.1 1388 A35JT VE3VEE EN94
190929_003945    14.067 Rx FT8     -4  0.2 1495 A35JT PP2FRS GH63
190929_003945    14.067 Rx FT8     -7 -0.2 1599 A35JT K5GS DM42
190929_003945    14.067 Rx FT8      1  0.0 1689 A35JT JR1JYR PM95
190929_004000    14.067 Tx FT8      0  0.0  538 VK3BDX A35JT RR73  <-- same
string grabbed again by the SW but I answered others
190929_004000    14.067 Rx FT8     -2  0.0 1821 A35JT KQ5M DM65   <---
still receiving things after I started TX
190929_004000    14.067 Rx FT8     -6 -0.0 1895 A35JT VK5BC PF95
190929_004000    14.067 Rx FT8      3  0.0 2057 VK6MIT AA4M DM42
190929_004000    14.067 Rx FT8     -8  0.4 2112 A35JT 6K5YIA PM45
190929_004000    14.067 Rx FT8      6  0.0 2295 A35JT XE1TD DL80
190929_004000    14.067 Rx FT8      1  0.0 2459 A35JT VE7SV CN99
190929_004000    14.067 Rx FT8    -13  0.0 2510 A35JT N5WXY R-13
190929_004000    14.067 Rx FT8    -15  0.2 2993 A35JT JA6KLP PM53
190929_004000    14.067 Rx FT8      4  0.0 3072 A35JT JH0INP PM96
190929_004000    14.067 Rx FT8    -11  0.3 1036 A35JT VK3GWS QF22
190929_004015    14.067 Rx FT8      4  0.0  596 A35JT NU1O R-15
190929_004015    14.067 Rx FT8      2  0.0 1018 A35JT K9NU EN55
190929_004015    14.067 Rx FT8    -11  0.3 1337 A35JT KI5BLU CN87
190929_004015    14.067 Rx FT8    -12  0.2 1358 A35JT YV5AJ FK60
190929_004015    14.067 Rx FT8      2  0.7 1514 A35JT VK3OD QF22
190929_004015    14.067 Rx FT8     -3  0.1 1598 A35JT K5GS DM42
190929_004015    14.067 Rx FT8    -15  0.4 1684 A35JT W9ZCL EN62
190929_004015    14.067 Rx FT8      3  0.0 1774 A35JT W5XU EM40
190929_004015    14.067 Rx FT8      1  0.0 1821 A35JT KQ5M DM65
190929_004030    14.067 Tx FT8      0  0.0  538 VK3BDX A35JT RR73

190929_004030    14.067 Rx FT8     -4 -0.0 1895 A35JT VK5BC PF95
190929_004030    14.067 Rx FT8      3  0.0 2057 VK6MIT AA4M DM42
190929_004030    14.067 Rx FT8     -1  0.5 2117 A35JT JF1HQC PM96
190929_004030    14.067 Rx FT8      6 -0.0 2294 A35JT XE1TD DL80
190929_004030    14.067 Rx FT8      3 -0.0 2458 A35JT VE7SV CN99
190929_004030    14.067 Rx FT8    -18  0.2 2993 A35JT JA6KLP PM53
190929_004030    14.067 Rx FT8      3  0.0 3071 A35JT JH0INP PM96
190929_004030    14.067 Rx FT8    -15 -0.0 3206 A35JT JF7ELG QM05
190929_004030    14.067 Rx FT8    -17 -0.3 3235 A35JT JK1OZS QM05
190929_004045    14.067 Rx FT8     10 -0.2 1114 A35JT KD0PO EM24
190929_004045    14.067 Rx FT8     -3  0.1 1274 A35JT W7DN CN85
190929_004045    14.067 Rx FT8     -8  0.4 1337 A35JT KI5BLU CN87
190929_004045    14.067 Rx FT8      4  0.5 1517 A35JT N5DG EM20
190929_004045    14.067 Rx FT8      6  0.1 1602 A35JT VE3VEE EN94
190929_004045    14.067 Rx FT8    -15 -0.2 1684 A35JT W9ZCL EN62
190929_004045    14.067 Rx FT8      1  0.1 1775 A35JT W5XU EM40
190929_004045    14.067 Rx FT8      0  0.0 1821 A35JT KQ5M DM65
190929_004045    14.067 Rx FT8     -3 -0.0 1895 A35JT VK5BC PF95
190929_004045    14.067 Rx FT8      4  0.0 2057 VK6MIT AA4M DM42

happy to provide more samples if it helps?

Regards,
Grant VK5GR

On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 9:29 AM Steven Franke via wsjt-devel <
wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:

> Grant,
>
> > On Nov 21, 2019, at 2:31 PM, Grant VK5GR <vk5gr.ra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Folks,
> >
> > ALL.TXT is not populated when in FOX mode in 2.1.0 - I checked the logs
> from
> > A35JT. Only when we were in standard mode was it being updated.
>
> I am not able to reproduce this.
>
> I have just tested v2.1.0 here on Linux and separately on MacOS. In both
> cases I find that all decodes are written to ALL.TXT while running in Fox
> mode. I tested this in two ways: (i) running as Fox in monitor mode while
> tuned to 14.074 MHz and (ii) using two instances of WSJT-X, one Fox and one
> Hound, and connecting the two instances using a loopback connection. This
> second loopback setup was used so that I could run as Fox while
> transmitting CQs every other sequence. In both cases, all of the Fox’s
> decodes were written to ALL.TXT, whether the decode was addressed to Fox or
> not.
>
> 73
> Steve, k9an
>
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