Hi Bill,

Thanks for everything. I understand your position. It is very unfortunate that WSPRnert no longer seems to have a development or maintenance resource.

I will attempt to determine experimentally exactly which fields are needed by WSPRnet. I believe I already have a pretty good feel for that but just need to confirm. I hope once I have nailed that down Sam can provide a third party conversion resource. It would be unfortunate if some long time LF/MF stations could no longer upload WSPR spots without resorting to running an old version, to say nothing of FST4W.

73,
Paul N1BUG


On 9/28/2020 6:10 PM, Bill Somerville wrote:
Hi Paul,

the current WSPR implementation in WSJT-X calls wsprd to do the decoding, so the ALL_WSPR.TXT file it writes is the same as you would get by using wsprd from the command line. I believe some of the less recent format changes are to columns past the ones most users are interested in, I suspect the upload server may ignore excess columns silently.

There have been reports that uploads of recent ALL_WSPR.TXT do not work, we have taken the view that the file format is controlled by the WSJT team and we can put whatever we need in there. It is unfortunate that the WSPRnet.org project no longer seems to have any development resource, which leaves us in a tricky place. I think a third-party conversion utility is probably the best way forward for those that wish to upload batches of spots to WSPRnet.org.

73
Bill
G4WJS.

On 28/09/2020 23:02, N1BUG wrote:
Hi Bill,

Thanks for that information. I am very surprised no one has reported problems with WSPR batch uploads. Perhaps it has been some time since they updated WSJT-X. I do know for certain files of the format I posted earlier are accepted, as I tried one successfully today. I do not know exactly which version that was from but I think it would be whatever was the latest about a year ago. I use the WSJT-X WSPR decoder, but not WSJT-X as a front end / UI.

73,
Paul


On 9/28/2020 5:24 PM, Bill Somerville wrote:
Hi Paul and Sam,

the format has changed a few times. It changed in the v2.0.0 and v2.2.0. it has changed again for the upcoming v2.3.0 GA release. I can't find any specification of the file format accepted by WSPRnet.org for bulk uploads, but I expect it will probably be the format that was written by the version prior to WSJT-X v2.0.0 (probably WSPR too).

73
Bill
G4WJS.

On 28/09/2020 20:51, N1BUG wrote:
Hi Bill,

I didn't know that. Can you tell me at which version it became incompatible?

73,
Paul N1BUG


On 9/28/20 3:43 PM, Bill Somerville wrote:
Hi Paul and Sam,

you should be aware that the latest ALL_WSPR.TXT column format is no longer compatible with the WSPRnet.org file upload routine.

73
Bill
G4WJS.

On 28/09/2020 20:38, N1BUG wrote:
Hi Sam,

I have uploaded a recent sample of ALL_WSPR.TXT here:

http://n1bug.com/ALL_WSPR.TXT

I have no idea what some of those fields are or whether they are needed by WSPRnet.

73,
Paul N1BUG



On 9/28/20 3:20 PM, Sam W2JDB wrote:
Hi Paul,

Can you send me a sample of the ALL_WSPR.TXT file.
If I can, I will update my alltext.exe program, which reads the All.txt file ,
and output a file with the required format for the selected records.

73,

Sam W2JDB



-----Original Message-----
From: N1BUG <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Mon, Sep 28, 2020 3:09 pm
Subject: [wsjt-devel] FST4W batch WSPRnet upload

Hi,

An issue has been brought to my attention today. We have some people who
monitor LF and MF from RF quiet locations that don't have internet
access. Therefore they cannot upload spots to WSPRnet in real time. This
has not been a major problem with WSPR because after a night of
monitoring they can take the ALL_WSPR.TXT file to a location that does have internet access and upload it to WSPRnet. This gets all of their
spots from that night into the system.

The issue is that FST4W does not save spots to a file in the format of ALL_WSPR.TXT. It does save them to ALL.TXT of course but the format of that file is different and is not accepted by WSPRnet. Can saving FST4W spots to a file in the format of ALL_WSPR.TXT be implemented? I don't
think the name of the file matters.

73,
Paul N1BUG




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