HI Paul and Bill,
If the data is available within the All.txt file and you can get the exact 
format, I will be more than happy to update Alltext.exe to accommodate that 
function.
73,

Sam W2JDB


-----Original Message-----
From: N1BUG <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Mon, Sep 28, 2020 6:25 pm
Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] FST4W batch WSPRnet upload

Hi Bill,

Thanks for everything. I understand your position. It is very 
unfortunate that WSPRnert no longer seems to have a development or 
maintenance resource.

I will attempt to determine experimentally exactly which fields are 
needed by WSPRnet. I believe I already have a pretty good feel for that 
but just need to confirm. I hope once I have nailed that down Sam can 
provide a third party conversion resource. It would be unfortunate if 
some long time LF/MF stations could no longer upload WSPR spots without 
resorting to running an old version, to say nothing of FST4W.

73,
Paul N1BUG


On 9/28/2020 6:10 PM, Bill Somerville wrote:
> Hi Paul,
> 
> the current WSPR implementation in WSJT-X calls wsprd to do the 
> decoding, so the ALL_WSPR.TXT file it writes is the same as you would 
> get by using wsprd from the command line. I believe some of the less 
> recent format changes are to columns past the ones most users are 
> interested in, I suspect the upload server may ignore excess columns 
> silently.
> 
> There have been reports that uploads of recent ALL_WSPR.TXT do not work, 
> we have taken the view that the file format is controlled by the WSJT 
> team and we can put whatever we need in there. It is unfortunate that 
> the WSPRnet.org project no longer seems to have any development 
> resource, which leaves us in a tricky place. I think a third-party 
> conversion utility is probably the best way forward for those that wish 
> to upload batches of spots to WSPRnet.org.
> 
> 73
> Bill
> G4WJS.
> 
> On 28/09/2020 23:02, N1BUG wrote:
>> Hi Bill,
>>
>> Thanks for that information. I am very surprised no one has reported 
>> problems with WSPR batch uploads. Perhaps it has been some time since 
>> they updated WSJT-X. I do know for certain files of the format I 
>> posted earlier are accepted, as I tried one successfully today. I do 
>> not know exactly which version that was from but I think it would be 
>> whatever was the latest about a year ago. I use the WSJT-X WSPR 
>> decoder, but not WSJT-X as a front end / UI.
>>
>> 73,
>> Paul
>>
>>
>> On 9/28/2020 5:24 PM, Bill Somerville wrote:
>>> Hi Paul and Sam,
>>>
>>> the format has changed a few times. It changed in the v2.0.0 and 
>>> v2.2.0. it has changed again for the upcoming v2.3.0 GA release. I 
>>> can't find any specification of the file format accepted by 
>>> WSPRnet.org for bulk uploads, but I expect it will probably be the 
>>> format that was written by the version prior to WSJT-X v2.0.0 
>>> (probably WSPR too).
>>>
>>> 73
>>> Bill
>>> G4WJS.
>>>
>>> On 28/09/2020 20:51, N1BUG wrote:
>>>> Hi Bill,
>>>>
>>>> I didn't know that. Can you tell me at which version it became 
>>>> incompatible?
>>>>
>>>> 73,
>>>> Paul N1BUG
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 9/28/20 3:43 PM, Bill Somerville wrote:
>>>>> Hi Paul and Sam,
>>>>>
>>>>> you should be aware that the latest ALL_WSPR.TXT column format is 
>>>>> no longer compatible with the WSPRnet.org file upload routine.
>>>>>
>>>>> 73
>>>>> Bill
>>>>> G4WJS.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 28/09/2020 20:38, N1BUG wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Sam,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have uploaded a recent sample of ALL_WSPR.TXT here:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://n1bug.com/ALL_WSPR.TXT
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have no idea what some of those fields are or whether they are 
>>>>>> needed by WSPRnet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 73,
>>>>>> Paul N1BUG
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/28/20 3:20 PM, Sam W2JDB wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Paul,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can you send me a sample of the ALL_WSPR.TXT file.
>>>>>>> If I can, I will update my alltext.exe program, which reads the 
>>>>>>> All.txt file ,
>>>>>>> and output a file with the required format for the selected records.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 73,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sam W2JDB
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: N1BUG <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>> Sent: Mon, Sep 28, 2020 3:09 pm
>>>>>>> Subject: [wsjt-devel] FST4W batch WSPRnet upload
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> An issue has been brought to my attention today. We have some 
>>>>>>> people who
>>>>>>> monitor LF and MF from RF quiet locations that don't have internet
>>>>>>> access. Therefore they cannot upload spots to WSPRnet in real 
>>>>>>> time. This
>>>>>>> has not been a major problem with WSPR because after a night of
>>>>>>> monitoring they can take the ALL_WSPR.TXT file to a location that 
>>>>>>> does
>>>>>>> have internet access and upload it to WSPRnet. This gets all of 
>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>> spots from that night into the system.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The issue is that FST4W does not save spots to a file in the 
>>>>>>> format of
>>>>>>> ALL_WSPR.TXT. It does save them to ALL.TXT of course but the 
>>>>>>> format of
>>>>>>> that file is different and is not accepted by WSPRnet. Can saving 
>>>>>>> FST4W
>>>>>>> spots to a file in the format of ALL_WSPR.TXT be implemented? I 
>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>> think the name of the file matters.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 73,
>>>>>>> Paul N1BUG 
> 
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