I assumed someone would get pissed off by this.

So I already emailed Bill & Joe directly to avoid the noise.

I do not believe Bill or Joe would let something bad enter the code base.

And, this is wsjt-devel, not wsjt-users. The email group for users is:
https://wsjtx.groups.io/g/main/ I recommend you folks take your concerns
and opinions there.

It is too late for this thread. You guys have already killed it off.

--
Dave Slotter, W3DJS <https://www.qrz.com/db/W3DJS>


On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 4:56 PM James Shaver (N2ADV) <[email protected]>
wrote:

> The developers have always carefully weighed what has been asked vs what
> the positive or negative impacts would be.  Just because you don’t like the
> responses does not automatically make it QRM.  Feel free to ignore whatever
> you do not like but as many of us happily work on testing and providing
> feedback to the developers, the responses of those same users are indeed
> relevant.
>
> Have a nice day and happy DX’ing.
>
> 73,
>
> Jim S.
> N2ADV
>
> On Dec 3, 2020, at 4:48 PM, Hasan N0AN <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> 
> It is not qrm'ing the list to take issue with a proposed developmental
> issue that may negatively impact the program. If implemented, it will
> impact ALL of us, not just you. If that impact is deleterious, we suffer
> for your so-called enhancement, so we have every right to voice our
> opinions and recommendations to the developers. ...and you have every right
> to ignore or dispute our assertions.
>
> ...and the developers can decide what best suits their intentions, after
> due consideration of your requests, and our feedback. (Both of which are
> appropriate on this list)
> 73, N0AN
> Hasan
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 3:32 PM Dave Slotter, W3DJS <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Just curious -- how many of the people responding to my original message
>> -- *directed at Bill and Joe* -- are actually going to be coding
>> anything? Not to be an ass here, but this was not an open invitation to
>> send QRM to the mailing list.
>>
>> If you have code to contribute, great, otherwise, please stop the QRM
>> about irrelevant stuff.
>>
>> I am working on a solution for a particular use case. If this doesn't
>> work for you, that's totally ok. It will work for me and quite a few other
>> people.
>>
>> --
>> Dave Slotter, W3DJS <https://www.qrz.com/db/W3DJS>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 4:25 PM Hasan N0AN <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Please do not ask the developers to turn WSJT-X into Bloatware. Focus on
>>> the core functions and let 3rd party apps do the rest. They are out there.
>>> The interface to them already exists. Don't recreate the wheel and
>>> negatively impact the decoding of weak signals by trying to make WSJT-X
>>> into a Swiss Army Knife.
>>> 73, N0AN
>>> Hasan
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 2:11 PM Adam Bartlett <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I want to agree with Jim N2ADV here - WSJT-X is a great application for
>>>> weak signal work.  ACLog/Log4OM/RUMLog are great loggers that will tie to
>>>> QRZ/HamQTH/a database of US Hams from the FCC's dump/etc, and two of the
>>>> three are free (plus CQRLog and other tools).  In information systems we're
>>>> moving away from monolithic services/software toward microservice
>>>> architectures - I see WSJT-X as a weak signal microservice that talks to my
>>>> logging microservice that might also talk to FLDigi or a SSTV tool.
>>>>
>>>> 73,
>>>> Adam Bartlett
>>>> N5YHF
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 1:38 PM James Shaver (N2ADV) <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> So many users have so many different tastes that the UI really should
>>>>> be dedicated to decoding functions vs what are “quality of life”
>>>>> functions.  If you try to sharpen a hammer to make it a knife, you’ll have
>>>>> a mediocre knife and a terrible hammer.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just my 2 cents...
>>>>>
>>>>> 73,
>>>>>
>>>>> Jim S.
>>>>> N2ADV
>>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 3, 2020, at 2:27 PM, Neil Zampella <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>>
>>>>> There are many for Windows, and I'm fairly sure that Gridtracker does
>>>>> a lookup also, and its available for Linux.
>>>>> As far as modifying the wsjtx_log file, why?    Again, you're adding
>>>>> complexity to the program that is not really needed, and would add to the
>>>>> support issues seen here.
>>>>>
>>>>> Neil, KN3ILZ
>>>>> On 12/3/2020 11:37 AM, Dave Slotter, W3DJS wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> You said, "there are plenty of third-party bridge, programs that do
>>>>> this as do many logging programs"
>>>>>
>>>>> Please support your statement with specific examples.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would like to know which of these run under Linux and directly
>>>>> modify the file "wsjtx_log.adi" file.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you. Regards
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Dave Slotter, W3DJS <https://www.qrz.com/db/W3DJS>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 11:29 AM Neil Zampella <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> FWIW ... there are plenty of third-party bridge, programs that do this
>>>>>> as do many logging programs.  Adding something that requires Internet
>>>>>> access both ways, rather than the PSK Reporter's feed only, may cause
>>>>>> other issues, as well as add on to the support issues often seen here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Neil, KN3ILZ
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 12/3/2020 8:38 AM, John Nelson wrote:
>>>>>> > Dave,
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Scheme to populate name field in log:   good idea but —  you
>>>>>> suggest “full names” where it seems to me “first name” would be 
>>>>>> sufficient
>>>>>> and appropriate.  Comment?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > — John G4KLA
>>>>>>
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