Jim,

Exactly.  The openings may last 30-60 minutes, in general, but the path between 
any two specific stations is typically short-lived.  The geographic footprint 
may have a radius of 100 km or so at either end, and moves with time.

The reason I'm continuing this seemingly off-topic discussion is to get to a 
point that may be relevant to the investigation of the incorrect RST_RCVD 
values:  Because of the difference in population density, NA stations receive 
large pileups of JA callers during these openings.  I think the queue (maybe 
"stack" would be more appropriate) in this opening reached a maximum of 7 JA 
callers, but in previous openings it has reached as high as 24.  These openings 
are a very busy time for my particular instantiation of WSJT-X, and it's 
possible that the computational load may partially explain why the RST_RCVD 
values were incorrect during the JA run, but correct both before and after it.

Ed N4II.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Brown via wsjt-devel <wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> 
Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2021 6:29 AM
To: jan0--- via wsjt-devel <wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Cc: Jim Brown <k...@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.5.0-rc3 RST_RCVD logging issue

On 7/17/2021 2:59 AM, jan0--- via wsjt-devel wrote:
> It is characteristic of this propagation phenomenon between NA and AS 
> on 6m that the opening between any given pair of stations is brief:  
> One or two minutes is not uncommon.

That depends a LOT on which part of the US and which DX country. Here in NorCal 
and other areas along the West Coast, JA openings often last
30-60 minutes, and often local to specific grids, and shift around over time. 
This is litle different from the double-hop openings from here to eastern NA, 
except that our openings it to northern EN and FN grids tend to be short, few, 
and far between. And similar to your JA openings, our EU and AF openings are 
VERY short and very rare. You're very lucky if you have prop long enough to 
wait through one QSO, then start and finish your own. I had that experience 
yesterday with CU2AP, my second EU (first was EA6). I wasn't sure that he 
copied my RR73, but I copied his R and my report, so I logged it. It was on 
LOTW the next morning, so I guess he did. :)

Rapidly changing propagation is a characteristic of 6M. Understanding that 
explains a lot, including all the concerns about signal reports that vary a lot.

73, Jim K9YC


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