My understanding of GRAND is that it relies on the fact that the SNR is
high -- which is very much not the case for FT8.

Philip

On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 3:26 PM Glenn M-H via wsjt-devel <
wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:

> Hi!
>
> Please consider using "Guessing Random Additive Noise Decoding" (GRAND)
> when decoding whatever digital modes.
>
> -
>
> Expect that all existing ECC-software can be replaced by this (universal)
> ECC-software (or hardware if used); "Guessing Random Additive Noise
> Decoding" (GRAND) - article mentioning:
>
> September 14, 2021, New Chip [but also as software] Can Decode Any Type of
> Data Sent Across a Network:
>
> https://scitechdaily.com/new-chip-can-decode-any-type-of-data-sent-across-a-network/
> Citat: "...
> Since the 1950s, most error-correcting codes and decoding algorithms have
> been designed together. Each code had a structure that corresponded with a
> particular, highly complex decoding algorithm, which often required the use
> of dedicated hardware.
> *Researchers at MIT, Boston University, and Maynooth University in Ireland
> have now created the first silicon chip that is able to decode any code,
> regardless of its structure, with maximum accuracy, using a universal
> decoding algorithm called Guessing Random Additive Noise Decoding (GRAND).
> By eliminating the need for multiple, computationally complex decoders,
> GRAND enables increased efficiency that could have applications in
> augmented and virtual reality, gaming, 5G networks, and connected devices
> that rely on processing a high volume of data with minimal delay.*
> ...
> One way to think of these codes is as redundant hashes (in this case, a
> series of 1s and 0s) added to the end of the original data. The rules for
> the creation of that hash are stored in a specific codebook.
> As the encoded data travel over a network, they are affected by noise, or
> energy that disrupts the signal, which is often generated by other
> electronic devices. When that coded data and the noise that affected them
> arrive at their destination, the decoding algorithm consults its codebook
> and uses the structure of the hash to guess what the stored information is.
> Instead, GRAND works by guessing the noise that affected the message, and
> uses the noise pattern to deduce the original information. GRAND generates
> a series of noise sequences in the order they are likely to occur,
> subtracts them from the received data, and checks to see if the resulting
> codeword is in a codebook.
> ...
> The GRAND chip uses a three-tiered structure, starting with the simplest
> possible solutions in the first stage and working up to longer and more
> complex noise patterns in the two subsequent stages. Each stage operates
> independently, which increases the throughput of the system and saves power.
> The device is also designed to switch seamlessly between two codebooks. It
> contains two static random-access memory chips, one that can crack
> codewords, while the other loads a new codebook and then switches to
> decoding without any downtime.
> *The researchers tested the GRAND chip and found it could effectively
> decode any moderate redundancy code up to 128 bits in length, with only
> about a microsecond of latency.*
> Médard and her collaborators had previously demonstrated the success of
> the algorithm, but this new work showcases the effectiveness and efficiency
> of GRAND in hardware for the first time.
> ...
> *Since GRAND only uses codebooks for verification, the chip not only works
> with legacy codes but could also be used with codes that haven’t even been
> introduced yet.*
> …"
>
> September 9 2021, A universal system for decoding any type of data sent
> across a network.
> New chip eliminates the need for specific decoding hardware, could boost
> efficiency of gaming systems, 5G networks, the internet of things, and more:
> https://news.mit.edu/2021/grand-decoding-data-0909
>
> https://www.granddecoder.mit.edu/
>
> Muriel Medard:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muriel_M%C3%A9dard
>
> ECC incl. FEC:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Error_correction_code
>
> -
>
> 1 time 19 min:
> 23. maj 2021, It’s All in the Noise: Universal Noise-Centric Decoding |
> IEEE Montreal Keynote Event:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbPfylinEXU
>
> 1 time video:
> 7. sep. 2020, Prof. Muriel Médard - Guessing Random Additive Noise
> Decoding (GRAND):
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWVQl_Bn4gE
>
> FIU SCIS Distinguished Lecture Series: Guessing Random Additive Noise
> Decoding(GRAND)- Muriel Medard:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iRCbu-Iozw
>
> 23. okt. 2020, Muriel Medard: Guessing Random Additive Noise Decoding
> (GRAND) (Keynote Address):
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WA1JmV7hhPw
>
> Reliable Communication over Noisy Channels by Guessing Random Additive
> Noise Decoding (GRAND):
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1QlmXqYN1A
>
> -
>
> Articles:
>
> 23 Aug 2021, Guessing random additive noise decoding with symbol
> reliability information (SRGRAND):
> https://arxiv.org/abs/1902.03796
>
> 22 Mar 2019, Capacity-achieving Guessing Random Additive Noise Decoding
> (GRAND):
> https://arxiv.org/abs/1802.07010
>
> IEEE Transactions on Information Theory ( Volume: 65, Issue: 7, July 2019
> pp. 4023-4040): "Capacity-Achieving Guessing Random Additive Noise
> Decoding”:
> https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/8630851
>
> GRAND Duffy, Li & Medard, IEEE ISIT, 2018; IEEE Trans Inf Theory, 2019,
> An, Medard, Duffy, preprint, 2020.
>
> SRGRAND Duffy & Medard, IEEE ISIT, 2019; Duffy, Solomon, Konwar & Medard,
> CISS, 2020; Duffy, Medard & An, arXiv: 1902.03796;
> https://arxiv.org/abs/1902.03796
>
> ORBGRAND Duffy, arXiv:2001.00546, to appear ICASSP 2021;
> https://arxiv.org/abs/2001.00546
>
> SGRAND Solomon, Duffy & Medard, IEEE ICC, 2020.
>
> --
> best regards,
>
> Glenn, OZ1HFT
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