Alex,

Thanks for the reply. 

I'm not sure where in OSX 10.13.6 to look, but according to this page ( 
https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/12661/whats-the-font-in-mac-os-xs-gui 
<https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/12661/whats-the-font-in-mac-os-xs-gui>
 ) the default font is San Francisco. I don't think I've changed it.

I cannot find SanFrancisco listed anywhere in the choices available to 
TextEdit, but I do see a lot of files named SF*.otf in /System/Library/Fonts 
which I assume are San Francisco OpenType font files. I also see SF OpenType 
fonts listed in SystemInformation/Fonts with many in the family "System Font" - 
all mention SanFrancisco in the Copyright.

Lucida Grande displays the two arrows with different sizes.

If you'd like to take this offline from the group, email me at mycall @ arrl . 
net.

Thanks!



> On Jan 14, 2022, at 2:58 PM, Alex Lelievre via wsjt-devel 
> <wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi David,
> 
> What font do you have your UI set to?  That could have some effect.
> 
> alex K6LOT
> 
>> On Jan 14, 2022, at 11:00 AM, David Tiller via wsjt-devel 
>> <wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net <mailto:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Dear devs,
>> 
>> I know this is a very minor issue, but I'd like to pass on some additional 
>> info I've found.
>> 
>> The issue is this: Using WSJT-X 2.5.4 under OSX 10.13.6, the arrows on the 
>> 'Set TX freq to RX freq' and 'Set RX freq to TX freq' buttons are not the 
>> same size.
>> 
>> <Screen Shot 2022-01-14 at 1.19.21 PM.png>
>> 
>> As you can see, the up-arrow button is much larger than the down-arrow, even 
>> though the arrow glyph itself seems smaller.
>> 
>> I found the definitions of the buttons 'pbT2R' and 'pbR2T' in 
>> https://sourceforge.net/p/wsjt/wsjtx/ci/master/tree/widgets/mainwindow.ui 
>> <https://sourceforge.net/p/wsjt/wsjtx/ci/master/tree/widgets/mainwindow.ui> 
>> - the definitions are identical except that on my Mac, the UTF-8 characters 
>> used to represent the arrows are not rendering to the same size. The 
>> misrendering shows on the page at SF in chrome and Safari as well as if you 
>> cut-and-paste into a unicode-aware editor (TextEdit, Pages, etc).
>> 
>> I also noted that when the text from the above page (rendered in chrome) is 
>> pasted into TextEdit, the font used for the majority of the text is 
>> Courier/Regular/14. The font for the up-arrow character switches to Courier 
>> New/Regular/14. The down-arrow, however, does NOT seem to trigger a switch 
>> to Courier New/Regular 14, rather it shows as 'Fixed/14' with no typeface 
>> chosen. If I force the down-arrow font to Courier New/Regular/14, the glyph 
>> changes to the same size as the up arrow. I cannot force the down-arrow font 
>> to Courier/Regular/14 - it will not accept that, as if the glyph is not in 
>> that font.
>> 
>> Something is afoot with font handling on OSX. I tried a few other fonts in 
>> TextEdit:
>> 
>> Fonts that render the arrows with different sizes: American Typewriter, 
>> Avenir, Courier, Bank Gothic, Baskerville, Bodoni, Cochin, Copperplate, etc
>> 
>> Fonts that render the arrows with the same size: Andale Mono, Arial, 
>> Chalkboard, Comic Sans, Courier New, Times New Roman, etc
>> 
>> Unfortunately the other up- and down-arrows in the unicode space (23F6, 
>> 23F7, 2BC5, 2BC6) are in miscellaneous pages that are seemingly not present 
>> in many fonts. 
>> 
>> Image clip of definition of the SMALL UP ARROW:
>> 
>> <Screen Shot 2022-01-14 at 1.08.48 PM.png>
>> 
>> Image clip of definition of the LARGE DOWN ARROW:
>> 
>> <Screen Shot 2022-01-14 at 1.09.07 PM.png>
>> 
>> Thanks for reading this far!
>> 
>> 73, K4DET
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