Hi David,

I think that the font panel doesn’t show the font when .AppleSystemUIFont is 
the selected font.  You can look inside the WSJT-X.ini file to see what font 
you have selected.  Offhand, I have it set to 12 point.   The ini file is in 
~/Library/Preferences/WSJT-X.ini.

alex K6LOT


> On Jan 15, 2022, at 5:08 AM, David Tiller via wsjt-devel 
> <wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
> 
> Alex,
> 
> Thanks again for the reply - I must be an idiot; I searched for a font 
> chooser in WSJT-X before I went on the OS font wild goose chase. I didn't 
> even see that!
> 
> Interestingly, when I click on 'Font', it shows the following - note that no 
> Family is selected (I scrolled all the way down - nada)!!! Do you know what 
> it's supposed to be, or at least what you have selected for a font?
> 
> 73, K4DET
> 
> <Screen Shot 2022-01-15 at 8.03.30 AM.png>
> 
>> On Jan 14, 2022, at 9:53 PM, Alex Lelievre via wsjt-devel 
>> <wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi David,
>> 
>> You want to take a look at the font for WSJT-X, I was thinking perhaps you 
>> changed it in order to reproduce this bug.
>> 
>> Here’s where to look (in the Preferences for WSJT-X):
>> 
>> <Screen Shot 2022-01-14 at 6.51.32 PM.png>
>> 
>> alex K6LOT
>> 
>>> On Jan 14, 2022, at 6:13 PM, David Tiller via wsjt-devel 
>>> <wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Alex,
>>> 
>>> Thanks for the reply. 
>>> 
>>> I'm not sure where in OSX 10.13.6 to look, but according to this page ( 
>>> https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/12661/whats-the-font-in-mac-os-xs-gui
>>>  ) the default font is San Francisco. I don't think I've changed it.
>>> 
>>> I cannot find SanFrancisco listed anywhere in the choices available to 
>>> TextEdit, but I do see a lot of files named SF*.otf in 
>>> /System/Library/Fonts which I assume are San Francisco OpenType font files. 
>>> I also see SF OpenType fonts listed in SystemInformation/Fonts with many in 
>>> the family "System Font" - all mention SanFrancisco in the Copyright.
>>> 
>>> Lucida Grande displays the two arrows with different sizes.
>>> 
>>> If you'd like to take this offline from the group, email me at mycall @ 
>>> arrl . net.
>>> 
>>> Thanks!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 14, 2022, at 2:58 PM, Alex Lelievre via wsjt-devel 
>>>> <wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi David,
>>>> 
>>>> What font do you have your UI set to?  That could have some effect.
>>>> 
>>>> alex K6LOT
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 14, 2022, at 11:00 AM, David Tiller via wsjt-devel 
>>>>> <wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dear devs,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I know this is a very minor issue, but I'd like to pass on some 
>>>>> additional info I've found.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The issue is this: Using WSJT-X 2.5.4 under OSX 10.13.6, the arrows on 
>>>>> the 'Set TX freq to RX freq' and 'Set RX freq to TX freq' buttons are not 
>>>>> the same size.
>>>>> 
>>>>> <Screen Shot 2022-01-14 at 1.19.21 PM.png>
>>>>> 
>>>>> As you can see, the up-arrow button is much larger than the down-arrow, 
>>>>> even though the arrow glyph itself seems smaller.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I found the definitions of the buttons 'pbT2R' and 'pbR2T' in 
>>>>> https://sourceforge.net/p/wsjt/wsjtx/ci/master/tree/widgets/mainwindow.ui 
>>>>> - the definitions are identical except that on my Mac, the UTF-8 
>>>>> characters used to represent the arrows are not rendering to the same 
>>>>> size. The misrendering shows on the page at SF in chrome and Safari as 
>>>>> well as if you cut-and-paste into a unicode-aware editor (TextEdit, 
>>>>> Pages, etc).
>>>>> 
>>>>> I also noted that when the text from the above page (rendered in chrome) 
>>>>> is pasted into TextEdit, the font used for the majority of the text is 
>>>>> Courier/Regular/14. The font for the up-arrow character switches to 
>>>>> Courier New/Regular/14. The down-arrow, however, does NOT seem to trigger 
>>>>> a switch to Courier New/Regular 14, rather it shows as 'Fixed/14' with no 
>>>>> typeface chosen. If I force the down-arrow font to Courier 
>>>>> New/Regular/14, the glyph changes to the same size as the up arrow. I 
>>>>> cannot force the down-arrow font to Courier/Regular/14 - it will not 
>>>>> accept that, as if the glyph is not in that font.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Something is afoot with font handling on OSX. I tried a few other fonts 
>>>>> in TextEdit:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Fonts that render the arrows with different sizes: American Typewriter, 
>>>>> Avenir, Courier, Bank Gothic, Baskerville, Bodoni, Cochin, Copperplate, 
>>>>> etc
>>>>> 
>>>>> Fonts that render the arrows with the same size: Andale Mono, Arial, 
>>>>> Chalkboard, Comic Sans, Courier New, Times New Roman, etc
>>>>> 
>>>>> Unfortunately the other up- and down-arrows in the unicode space (23F6, 
>>>>> 23F7, 2BC5, 2BC6) are in miscellaneous pages that are seemingly not 
>>>>> present in many fonts. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Image clip of definition of the SMALL UP ARROW:
>>>>> 
>>>>> <Screen Shot 2022-01-14 at 1.08.48 PM.png>
>>>>> 
>>>>> Image clip of definition of the LARGE DOWN ARROW:
>>>>> 
>>>>> <Screen Shot 2022-01-14 at 1.09.07 PM.png>
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks for reading this far!
>>>>> 
>>>>> 73, K4DET
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