Hi Ton

Those msg for different stations in a single stream and on the same time is mandatory for FT8DX Mode (WSJT-X F/H) but they can also be made by the MSHV Software and if a Station is TXing on the 15/45 periode and send out those msg for different station it can't be WSJT-X and it's not the real FT8DX Mode. A station in real Fox/Hound Mode (FT8DX) can't TX on 15/45 periode and can't on a standard FT8 QRG. A real Fox/Hound Station will always in TX 00/15  periods and always on a non-standard FT8 QRG. So if the DX-station is wringting somewhere that he or they will work on F/H mode on a standard FT8 QRG it cant be. That will be MSHV MADX (Multi-Slot) Mode witch is Pseudo Fox/Hound Mode - It looks like F/H Mode and it acts like F/H Mode but it ain't the real thing.

73 de 5p1kzx Michael


Den 10-04-2023 kl. 10:28 skrev Ton PA0TBR via wsjt-devel:
The messages had different reports for different stations in a single stream., my understanding is that this must be WJST-X F/H..
Please correct me if i am wrong.

73, Ton pa0tbr


Op zo 9 apr. 2023 om 15:06 schreef Reino Talarmo via wsjt-devel <wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>

    And they are using the ”wrong” period on purpose an politely so
    that  you see immediately that the normal FT8 should be used by
    “hounds”.

    73, Reino OH3mA

    *From:*Alan McDonald via wsjt-devel
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    *Sent:* sunnuntai 9. huhtikuuta 2023 15.05
    *To:* WSJT software development <wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
    *Cc:* Alan McDonald <a...@meta.com.au>
    *Subject:* Re: [wsjt-devel] F/H mode in wrong period

    I think you are assuming that they are using Fox and Hound with
    WSJT flavours. They are more likely using MSHV which does not
    require odd/even F/H.

    They just look like they are F/H but are just multi stream. You
    can work them as normal

    Alan

    On Sun, 9 Apr 2023 at 19:32, Ton PA0TBR via wsjt-devel
    <wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:

        It becomes more often that I see Fox/Hound stations making
        QSO's in the wrong period.
        When I check my own time it is exact, according to time.is
        <http://time.is>
        Today again, I noticed a Fox in the wrong (odd) period
        together with some Hounds transmitting in the for them correct
        (odd) period.

        But a few Hounds managed to transmit in the wrong (even)
        period enabling a QSO.

        I wonder how these Hounds are able to follow in the wrong period?

        73,
        Ton pa0tbr

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