All correct. I've just emailed T30UN on this very subject. Their QRZ page is completely misleading - what they are saying is absolutely not possible. It's not F/H if they are on std freq. It's MSHV multi-stream. But they say they use WSJT-X. So this all leads to total confusion for all operators.
T30UN QRZ page quote: [image: image.png] Alan On Mon, 10 Apr 2023 at 20:27, 5p1kzx Michael via wsjt-devel < wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > Hi Ton > > Those msg for different stations in a single stream and on the same time > is mandatory for FT8DX Mode (WSJT-X F/H) but they can also be made by the > MSHV Software and if a Station is TXing on the 15/45 periode and send out > those msg for different station it can't be WSJT-X and it's not the real > FT8DX Mode. A station in real Fox/Hound Mode (FT8DX) can't TX on 15/45 > periode and can't on a standard FT8 QRG. A real Fox/Hound Station will > always in TX 00/15 periods and always on a non-standard FT8 QRG. So if the > DX-station is wringting somewhere that he or they will work on F/H mode on > a standard FT8 QRG it cant be. That will be MSHV MADX (Multi-Slot) Mode > witch is Pseudo Fox/Hound Mode - It looks like F/H Mode and it acts like > F/H Mode but it ain't the real thing. > > 73 de 5p1kzx Michael > > > Den 10-04-2023 kl. 10:28 skrev Ton PA0TBR via wsjt-devel: > > The messages had different reports for different stations in a single > stream., my understanding is that this must be WJST-X F/H.. > Please correct me if i am wrong. > > 73, Ton pa0tbr > > > Op zo 9 apr. 2023 om 15:06 schreef Reino Talarmo via wsjt-devel < > wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> > >> And they are using the ”wrong” period on purpose an politely so that you >> see immediately that the normal FT8 should be used by “hounds”. >> >> 73, Reino OH3mA >> >> >> >> *From:* Alan McDonald via wsjt-devel [mailto: >> wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net] >> *Sent:* sunnuntai 9. huhtikuuta 2023 15.05 >> *To:* WSJT software development <wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> >> *Cc:* Alan McDonald <a...@meta.com.au> >> *Subject:* Re: [wsjt-devel] F/H mode in wrong period >> >> >> >> I think you are assuming that they are using Fox and Hound with WSJT >> flavours. They are more likely using MSHV which does not require odd/even >> F/H. >> >> They just look like they are F/H but are just multi stream. You can work >> them as normal >> >> Alan >> >> >> >> On Sun, 9 Apr 2023 at 19:32, Ton PA0TBR via wsjt-devel < >> wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: >> >> It becomes more often that I see Fox/Hound stations making QSO's in the >> wrong period. >> When I check my own time it is exact, according to time.is >> Today again, I noticed a Fox in the wrong (odd) period together with some >> Hounds transmitting in the for them correct (odd) period. >> >> But a few Hounds managed to transmit in the wrong (even) period enabling >> a QSO. >> >> I wonder how these Hounds are able to follow in the wrong period? >> >> 73, >> Ton pa0tbr >> >> _______________________________________________ >> wsjt-devel mailing list >> wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> regards >> Alan McDonald >> _______________________________________________ >> wsjt-devel mailing list >> wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel >> > > > _______________________________________________ > wsjt-devel mailing > listwsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.nethttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel > > _______________________________________________ > wsjt-devel mailing list > wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel > -- regards Alan McDonald
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