Hi,

Joe, thanks for your answer!

It is always great to get a respons from the authorities on a list when you make your voice heard for the first time!

I started writing something like Jari wrote below, but got interrupted. :(

But, his opinion is mine opinion as well. I use it myself on 6m, 2m and 70cm. The NAC is run every month so this means that I am using the EU VHF mode at least three times a month. Then there are a few other contests that use the same scheme. A minor comment is that the normal NAC:s doesn't use the serial number, but a some of the other contests do.

So, my opinion and probably / hopefully many others as well is that a "fix" for the different mode so that they operate better together with each other should be of great help.

From the other list it is clear that the fix shouldn't be called a fix for contest modes but rather a fix to get all the FT4/FT8 etc mode to operate better together. Because this is really what I am talking about. Basically the mode page should only be used to decide what "style" you will use for initiating a QSO. Then when you answer someone the WSJT-X must answer using de right messages based on what you receive.

I did study the state diagram in the excellent QEX article on FT4 / FT8, which I BTW can't find any longer since the code was mode to Sourceforge. From what I see it will work for EU VHF mode. I haven't study it for the other special modes.

As always I first need to make sure I have the right development tools here. I have actually not yet compiled WSJT-X locally. I am on Linux only here so it should not be a problem. (I did add a few minor fixes to CQRLOG in order to get the, guess what :), the EDI export work better.)

73 de

/Thomas, SM0KBD

Den 2023-06-14 kl. 17:11, skrev Jari A via wsjt-devel:
Hi Joe, Hi others,

When contest modes were taken in use, WSJT-X ( and clones ) got quite fast attention and adaptation for Nordic Activity Contests ( NAC ).

I been contesting in 10m, 6m, 2m and 70cm contests on FT8 mode for years now. There is also traffic on 4m FT8, also 23cm and higher.
Mode is EU VHF Contest from 10m band.

Countries participating to NAC, are numerous: Finland, Sweden, Denmark, Norway, Iceland, Faroe island, Estonia, then Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Germany, Italy, other European countries what is not mentioned.

There are several contests in every month over the year. NAC in different bands happen every month.

Been several years since I message to Joe about contesting and one follow up as it got so popular in Nordic countries.

I seen EU VHF Contest excellent thing. CW and SSB operators may disagree...

Regards,

: Jari / oh2fqv

On Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 5:34 PM Joe Taylor via wsjt-devel <wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:

    Hi Thomas,

    Thanks for your message.  This list is indeed the best place for
    suggestions of the sort you have made.

    Since the first days of WSJT-X we have had great difficulty
    getting any
    feedback about EU VHF Contest mode, or even reports of its widespread
    use.  Exchanging 6-character locators with 77-bit messages requires a
    number of compromised changes to the usual message sequences in QSOs
    using the FT4, FT8, MSK144, and Q65 modes.  If you have specific
    suggestions for code changes, and if you believe the usage of EU VHF
    Contest mode would be significant, we would be happy to listen.

            -- 73, Joe, K1JT

    On 6/14/2023 5:58 AM, Thomas Nilsson, SM0KBD via wsjt-devel wrote:
    > Hi,
    >
    > my name is Thomas, SM0KBD. I am a sort of a SW interested ham.
    >
    > I have no idea how you use this list, I mean if it is only for
    > merge-proposals and bug reports and all other administrative
    task for
    > WSJT-X or if it is also for discussing improvement proposals?
    >
    > Yesterday I wrote about a proposal for changing the
    auto-sequencer state
    > machine for FT4/FT8/... on the normal WSJT-X list. But then I
    realised
    > that maybe this is the place / list for such a thing?
    >
    > BTW: I am well aware of that if you propose something you are
    expected
    > to do a bit of the work! :)
    >
    > 73 de
    >
    > /Thomas, SM0KBD
    >


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