I agree with most of what you say but I am very opposed to changing timings , 
without some planning.

To be widely accepted for more than EME Q65 should be enhanced with 7.5 and 
perhaps even 3.75 sec sequencing. In many cases speed beats sensitivity and 
Averaging helps increasing sensitivity to some extend by adding several short 
periods together. Most WSJT QSO's are done many dB above the minimum 
sensitivity.

In high population density areas such as PA, DL, ON, G and others it is 
imperative that timings and who goes first are adhered to. Certainly for the 
6m- 70cms  bands, for uwave bands this is not a problem. I understand your 
reasoning, particularly on 6m and 2m Es where signals are only there for 1min 
but too much choice is a recipe for mayhem. These are weak signal modes which 
are completely wrecked by local stations transmitting in your RX periods. It is 
fine of course that we agree on 7.5sec for Es openings but we MUST agree 
beforehand. I have tended to use Q65 for IONO or weak tropo on 2m. It works 
very well for this with 30s periods. Of course if we do not adopt a fixed 
frequency per band like FT8 then it does not matter.

Regards

Conrad PA5Y


From: Palle Preben-Hansen, OZ1RH via wsjt-devel 
<wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Sent: 18 June 2023 12:15
To: WSJT software development <wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Cc: Palle Preben-Hansen, OZ1RH <pa...@oz1rh.com>
Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] New subscriber :)

The way the different contest exchanges are implemented in WSJT is confusing 
and has been discussed many times.

Users has to select "EU VHF" if they are in a HF contest requiring either a 
serial number and/or the full 6-digit locator. Trying to use a particular 
contest exchange may resulting in a window at the other station "Do you want to 
change to xxx mode". As WSJT in this situation can display a window, WSJT might 
just as well just change to that mode and send the needed exchange.

I suggest the labeling on the Settings page regarding contest "modes" is split 
into several saying:
"I need an exchange with serial number"
"I need an exchange with your 6-digit locator"
"I need an exchange for NA fieldday"

When a station calls CQ with some of these options set, WSJT in FT4/8, MSK144 
or Q65 of the answering station should automatically transmit the requested 
exchange without flashing a confusing window about a particular contest mode.

The logic should be that you request the exchange you need and you get it 
without intervention from the other station. This should keep all happy and one 
only transmits the exchanges needed by the other station.

Btw FT4/8 is not well suited for VHF, as everyone is QRM'ing each other on the 
same frequency. FT8 does not even play well with aurora, but few knows what 
they at not decoding. Q65 is developed for VHF and up and MAP65 can find all 
Q65 signal within about 200 kHz enabling all stations to spread out and use 
more of the band (use it or loose it). Perhaps Q65 will work well on HF too?

To be widely accepted for more than EME Q65 should be enhanced with 7.5 and 
perhaps even 3.75 sec sequencing. In many cases speed beats sensitivity and 
Averaging helps increasing sensitivity to some extend by adding several short 
periods together. Most WSJT QSO's are done many dB above the minimum 
sensitivity.

Also Q65 should by default use a setting (sequence and A-E) suited for the band 
in use. In case someone wants to try other than the default settings they could 
be changed in Advanced settings.

73, Palle, OZ1RH.

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