Hi Glenn,

FT4 and FT8 are a tiny fraction of what's available in WSJT-X. Modes that meet the needs you describe are already available in the program.

Spend some time reading the WSJT-X User Guide. Pay particular attention to Section 17.2. Its Table 7 summarizes the threshold sensitivities of many of the available modes and submodes. For weak signal work on 160m you might want to look at the FST4-xxx submodes. These submodes offer sensitivities from 3 dB to 22 dB better than FT8 on an AWGN channel, and comparable improvements on most channel conditions likely to be found on our MF bands, including 160m.

        -- 73, Joe, K1JT

On 12/7/2023 10:46 AM, Glenn Williams via wsjt-devel wrote:
Hello,

FT8 on 160m pales.

WSJT-X operators customarily running FT8 and FT4 on 80m through 10m HF bands are likely disappointed with trials on 160m. As one of those operators I recently ran WSPR on 160m in comparison to working FT8 QSOs on 160m. In NA EST daytime operation at 2220Z WSPR faultlessly listed a -28 dBm decode.

Here I suggest we need an improved decode sensitivity for 160m QSOs, likely needing to be done with a new mode. Granted, the TX and RX times would have to be increased (Shannon-Hartley Theorem). That would require additional operator patience and associated protocols for the extended timing.

--73, Glenn, AF8C



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