Glenn,A mode that differs from FST4?Ed N4II. 
-------- Original message --------From: Glenn Williams via wsjt-devel 
<wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> Date: 12/7/23  1:26 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: 
wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Cc: Glenn Williams <a...@alumni.caltech.edu> 
Subject: [wsjt-devel]  160m S/N needs advanced mode Hello,FT8 on 160m 
pales.WSJT-X operators customarily running FT8 and FT4 on 80m through 10m HF 
bands are likely disappointed with trials on 160m. As one of those operators I 
recently ran WSPR on 160m in comparison to working FT8 QSOs on 160m. In NA EST 
daytime operation at 2220Z WSPR faultlessly listed a -28 dBm decode.Here I 
suggest we need an improved decode sensitivity for 160m QSOs, likely needing to 
be done with a new mode. Granted, the TX and RX times would have to be 
increased (Shannon-Hartley Theorem). That would require additional operator 
patience and associated protocols for the extended timing.--73, Glenn, AF8C-- 
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