John,

 

Nope, I mean 6m. I have been workings om SW too and that reporting system would 
work better on 6m during contests.

 

73

Bo

 

Från: John Kludt via wsjt-devel <wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> 
Skickat: den 11 mars 2024 20:00
Till: WSJT software development <wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Kopia: John Kludt <johnnykl...@gmail.com>
Ämne: Re: [wsjt-devel] MSK144 & FT8

 

Bo,

 

I assume you mean vhf and up contests.  On HF CW or Phone, the contest standard 
is always 599 or 59.  Which means it is a meaningless part of the exchange.  
Why should FT8/MSK144 be held to a higher standard? At least they are trying to 
use some kind of a standard definition for signal strength.

 

John K7SYS

 

On Mon, Mar 11, 2024 at 11:11 AM Bo Nilsson via wsjt-devel 
<wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net <mailto:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> > 
wrote:

Gents, 

 

As you know both FT8 and MSK144 are very popular modes on 6m, BUT for some 
reason the report sent can change many times during a QSO. The result is that 
both operators can log different reports and still have a valid QSO. This 
sounds crazy to me. Obviously I’m not the only one concerned. In several 
contests these two modes are banned for that reason. (A pity!)

 

I’ve heard that one reason for changing the report during a QSO is to inform 
the station you are calling of the current status of received signal strength. 
I don’t see what help we get from this info. There are things like QSB, MS 
bursts, QRM and other things that can change the report 10 steps or more for 
one period. With 3 different programs on the market the report does not say 
very much at all, as you don’t know which SW is used by the station you work. 
Some SW is more generous than others.

 

I propose that FT8 and MSK144 follow the standard pattern and that reports stay 
unchanged during a QSO.

 

73

Bo

SM7FJE

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