Good morning Charlie,
Yes, the logfile that I sent to Mike covered a large part of the day
including the moment that the sked frequency started to drift away.
I like your idea to test with another radio. Of course I don't have a
second homemade transceiver for 144 MHz with CAT-control, so maybe your
idea of using an SDR is worth investigating.
Still, if such a test shows that my station setup is unique, then the
question remains what CAT-commands or sequence of events and CAT-commands
can lead to WSJT-X changing the sked frequency. I have even considered to
program a PIC processor to behave as an ideal transceiver to test if the
same behavior occurs.
I have a puzzle to solve and will inform you of what I find. Thanks again
for helping me!
73, Jos, PA0JOZ

On Sat, 28 Sept 2024 at 07:07, Charles Suckling via wsjt-devel <
wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:

> Hi Jos
>
> It does appear your situation is unique.  As far as I'm aware, the rig
> control software within WSJT-X itself has not changed for years, and this
> problem has never been reported before. As I mentioned yesterday, WSJT-X
> has been used for EME on 24GHz where Doppler shifts often exceed 19kHz.  It
> has also been used successfully on 47GHz, so I'm confident that the issue
> is not related to the magnitude of the Doppler shift.
>
> I wonder if you have some other radio you could test with? This could be
> for example an SDR controlled by software such as HDSDR or SDR Console.
> Both of these programs can be connected to WSJT-X,  since they both have
> emulators (using a virtual com port connection such as com0com).  Audio can
> be routed via virtual audio cables,
>
> Did the data that Mike studied cover the case during which the sked
> frequency was changing?
>
> 73
>
> Charlie
>
> On Fri, 27 Sept 2024 at 16:50, Jos F.M. VanderList via wsjt-devel <
> wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
>
>> Good afternoon all,
>> While monitoring the DL0SHF beacon at 10 GHz I noticed strange behavior
>> of the Doppler tracking.
>> I set the sked frequency initially to 10368.024 MHz, with Doppler
>> tracking "On DX Echo".
>> DL0SHF appears initially at its normal place in the waterfall.
>> However, when the (absolute) value of the DX Doppler exceeds
>> approximately 19 kHz the sked frequency gets changed in the Astro window,
>> without me touching anything. The change is steadily downward with 1 or 2
>> Hz at a time. At the same time the VFO frequency of the transceiver is also
>> ordered to a lower frequency. And the result is that the beacon is drifting
>> slowly upwards in the waterfall.
>> I also noticed that in the situation that WSJT-X alters the sked
>> frequency it is sometimes possible to adjust the sked frequency by turning
>> the tuning knob of the transceiver, without pressing CTRL.
>> Mike, W9MDB, checked the communication between WSJT-X and the transceiver
>> and he didn't find anything strange there. So to me it seems that the
>> problem is in WSJT-X itself.
>> Before anyone asks: all my oscillators are locked to my 10 MHz GPSDO.
>> And the transceiver frequency follows the frequency ordered by WSJT-X.
>> I'll give some examples from this afternoon. Sked frequency is the sked
>> frequency in the Astro window. Transceiver frequency is the frequency as
>> shown below the Monitor button in the main WSJT-X window. And DXDop is as
>> shown in the Astro window.
>> DXDop:    TRX freq.:           Sked freq.:
>> -17000    10368.007000    10368.024000
>> -18000    10368.006000    10368.024000
>> -19116    10368.004877    10368.023993
>> -19500    10368.004232    10368.023932
>> -19999    10368.003480    10368.023479
>> -20497    10368.002335    10368.022832
>> Can anyone shed some light on this? Why is WSJT-X altering the sked
>> frequency if the Doppler is more than 19 kHz? And why isn't the Doppler
>> tracking keeping the beacon stable in the waterfall? Is it a bug, am I
>> doing something wrong, is my understanding of the Doppler tracking wrong?
>> 73, Jos, PA0JOZ
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