Hi Jos

All understood.  We will be very interested to hear about your findings.

I will play some more with my IC735 and the CRTL key.

One thing to note - with the SDR programs I have tested with, changing the
frequency of the SDR does cause WSJT-X to move to the SDR frequency, as far
as I recall (and vice-versa of course).

73

Charlie



On Sat, 28 Sept 2024 at 12:13, Jos F.M. VanderList via wsjt-devel <
wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:

> Good morning Charlie,
> Yes, the logfile that I sent to Mike covered a large part of the day
> including the moment that the sked frequency started to drift away.
> I like your idea to test with another radio. Of course I don't have a
> second homemade transceiver for 144 MHz with CAT-control, so maybe your
> idea of using an SDR is worth investigating.
> Still, if such a test shows that my station setup is unique, then the
> question remains what CAT-commands or sequence of events and CAT-commands
> can lead to WSJT-X changing the sked frequency. I have even considered to
> program a PIC processor to behave as an ideal transceiver to test if the
> same behavior occurs.
> I have a puzzle to solve and will inform you of what I find. Thanks again
> for helping me!
> 73, Jos, PA0JOZ
>
> On Sat, 28 Sept 2024 at 07:07, Charles Suckling via wsjt-devel <
> wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
>
>> Hi Jos
>>
>> It does appear your situation is unique.  As far as I'm aware, the rig
>> control software within WSJT-X itself has not changed for years, and this
>> problem has never been reported before. As I mentioned yesterday, WSJT-X
>> has been used for EME on 24GHz where Doppler shifts often exceed 19kHz.  It
>> has also been used successfully on 47GHz, so I'm confident that the issue
>> is not related to the magnitude of the Doppler shift.
>>
>> I wonder if you have some other radio you could test with? This could be
>> for example an SDR controlled by software such as HDSDR or SDR Console.
>> Both of these programs can be connected to WSJT-X,  since they both have
>> emulators (using a virtual com port connection such as com0com).  Audio can
>> be routed via virtual audio cables,
>>
>> Did the data that Mike studied cover the case during which the sked
>> frequency was changing?
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Charlie
>>
>> On Fri, 27 Sept 2024 at 16:50, Jos F.M. VanderList via wsjt-devel <
>> wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Good afternoon all,
>>> While monitoring the DL0SHF beacon at 10 GHz I noticed strange behavior
>>> of the Doppler tracking.
>>> I set the sked frequency initially to 10368.024 MHz, with Doppler
>>> tracking "On DX Echo".
>>> DL0SHF appears initially at its normal place in the waterfall.
>>> However, when the (absolute) value of the DX Doppler exceeds
>>> approximately 19 kHz the sked frequency gets changed in the Astro window,
>>> without me touching anything. The change is steadily downward with 1 or 2
>>> Hz at a time. At the same time the VFO frequency of the transceiver is also
>>> ordered to a lower frequency. And the result is that the beacon is drifting
>>> slowly upwards in the waterfall.
>>> I also noticed that in the situation that WSJT-X alters the sked
>>> frequency it is sometimes possible to adjust the sked frequency by turning
>>> the tuning knob of the transceiver, without pressing CTRL.
>>> Mike, W9MDB, checked the communication between WSJT-X and the
>>> transceiver and he didn't find anything strange there. So to me it seems
>>> that the problem is in WSJT-X itself.
>>> Before anyone asks: all my oscillators are locked to my 10 MHz GPSDO.
>>> And the transceiver frequency follows the frequency ordered by WSJT-X.
>>> I'll give some examples from this afternoon. Sked frequency is the sked
>>> frequency in the Astro window. Transceiver frequency is the frequency as
>>> shown below the Monitor button in the main WSJT-X window. And DXDop is as
>>> shown in the Astro window.
>>> DXDop:    TRX freq.:           Sked freq.:
>>> -17000    10368.007000    10368.024000
>>> -18000    10368.006000    10368.024000
>>> -19116    10368.004877    10368.023993
>>> -19500    10368.004232    10368.023932
>>> -19999    10368.003480    10368.023479
>>> -20497    10368.002335    10368.022832
>>> Can anyone shed some light on this? Why is WSJT-X altering the sked
>>> frequency if the Doppler is more than 19 kHz? And why isn't the Doppler
>>> tracking keeping the beacon stable in the waterfall? Is it a bug, am I
>>> doing something wrong, is my understanding of the Doppler tracking wrong?
>>> 73, Jos, PA0JOZ
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