On 3/24/06, Bret Pettichord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
I recall one email about that. I wasn't aware that it was frequently discussed. I have been following the list. Someone emailed me about the spaces and I looked into it and fixed it. I perhaps should have gone back over the list and replied to specific posts. I really am sorry if I missed it earlier.
I sent an email to the list on March 3rd entitled "problem enumerating forms" in which I asked about this issue. You replied on Mar 15 that you had committed a fix to SVN.
It is easy enough to update WR so I will do that.
I am not deluded. I don't particularly like your tone one bit! I read all the posts to the list every day. I am offering my opinion of what can happen as a product grows in use and reaches a wider audience. You are entitled to feel that my opinion is BS of course, but do you have to be so rude?
I'll look into that - it is based on proprietary code in a commercial product so I'd have to find out if that is possible. Until then I will remove Watir WebRecorder from our site. I don't like to feel I am causing a nuisance. That was never my intention. I only was impressed with Watir and felt a Watir version of WebRecorder could be a useful complement. Perhaps I am wrong.
I don't believe it should have to. I believe they have their place. But it's clear we won't agree on that :-/
-- We have had many people send problem scripts and the problem was that
there were extra spaces. This is the problem you just sent mail about
fixing. This was the first i'd heard that this frequently discussed
problem was actually a webrecorder bug and not an emailer issue, as
had been frequently suggested. I didn't see you jumping in on these
problems.
I recall one email about that. I wasn't aware that it was frequently discussed. I have been following the list. Someone emailed me about the spaces and I looked into it and fixed it. I perhaps should have gone back over the list and replied to specific posts. I really am sorry if I missed it earlier.
Watir 1.4.1 has a bug when using form() and there is only one form.
This bug is fixed in development. I don't recall you reporting this
bug. This came from users of WebRecorder.
I sent an email to the list on March 3rd entitled "problem enumerating forms" in which I asked about this issue. You replied on Mar 15 that you had committed a fix to SVN.
I could probably release 1.4.2 with this fix. It's a one-line change.
It's going to be a while before 1.5 becomes generally released and
supported. Or you could update WebRecorder to work around this bug.
What do you suggest?
It is easy enough to update WR so I will do that.
> I did not provide this version of WebRecorder in order to create any extra
> burden for you, and I am sorry if you feel that is all it has achieved. I'm
> not aware that it has in fact directly contributed to any extra support
> requests, but I suppose as a product grows in popularity, as Watir clearly
> is doing, and whether or not WebRecorder is in some way responsible for
> that, the support burden will increase as more and more people get to know
> about it, many of whom will be less technical than the earlier adopters.
> That's almost a fact of life - a side effect of success.
This is complete bull. You are either not actually following the list
or you are completely deluded.
I am not deluded. I don't particularly like your tone one bit! I read all the posts to the list every day. I am offering my opinion of what can happen as a product grows in use and reaches a wider audience. You are entitled to feel that my opinion is BS of course, but do you have to be so rude?
> I have made it quite clear when running WebRecorder and on the WebRecorder
> web page that knowledge of Watir and Ruby is essential and that any problems
> with recording are not indicative of any problem in Watir. But if you think
> WebRecorder is causing you undue burden then clearly we must do something
> about it.
I think there is agreement that there needs to be separate list to
support web recorder users.
My suggestion is that you make WebRecorder open source and add unit
tests to it. And create a separate mailing list to support these
people.
I'll look into that - it is based on proprietary code in a commercial product so I'd have to find out if that is possible. Until then I will remove Watir WebRecorder from our site. I don't like to feel I am causing a nuisance. That was never my intention. I only was impressed with Watir and felt a Watir version of WebRecorder could be a useful complement. Perhaps I am wrong.
Widespread use of recorders for Watir will also force us to create a
tiered community.
I don't believe it should have to. I believe they have their place. But it's clear we won't agree on that :-/
Marcus Tettmar
http://www.mjtnet.com/
Macro Scheduler & WebRecorder for Windows & Web Automation and Testing. WebRecorder for Ruby/Watir now available.
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