Cannondale :D On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 6:50 PM, Daniele Littera <[email protected]>wrote:
> Thanks Chad! > > > > Yeah right now i’m figuring out if specialized or cannondale…. > > > > I will definitively do it… and as soon as I will start to design it I’ll > let you know… > > > > I’ll let everybody know, so everyone can share its experience and ideas.. > it could be a nice project! > > > > --- > > Daniele Littera > > Graduate student in Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering > Research Assistant > West Virginia University > > Cell: +1 304-777-9941 > e-Mail: [email protected] > > LinkedIn: *www.linkedin.com/in/danielelittera* > > > > *Da:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *Per > conto di *Chad Jones > *Inviato:* martedì 2 novembre 2010 17.27 > *A:* [email protected] > *Oggetto:* Re: R: [WVU Cycling] Homemade Carbon Fiber MTB! > > > > Daniele, I will agree that the most cost efficient choice is to buy a new > bike. However, I am interested in your enthusiasm in trying to build a bike. > If you would like to look into this project further definitely email me. > [email protected] > > Chad > > On 11/02/10, *Fastest Fat Kid *<[email protected]> wrote: > > it's going to take you a very long time to build a frame and i can't > believe that you could go lighter than the frames todd and I are > riding. An incredible amount of R&D goes into which direction the > carbon is layed up and where it is placed. Our top tubes are so thin > that you can feel deflection when you press on them with your finger > while still maintaining stiffness that will rattle the teeth out of > your head if you ride it wrong. Go buy a bike and sell your > Mongoose. Some day when you're and old dude you can build a bike when > you have the time to devote to the project. > > On Nov 2, 1:22 am, "Daniele Littera" <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Thanks Zerbe! I was waiting your answer.. since I know you worked with > > cannondale.. > > > > Your idea was my third option (that I forgot to write) buy a production > > bike..still hardtail for 1K$... and then use the mongoose for this > > project... but with a longer term... may build a sort of light mtb for > > cyclocross..where there's less fatigue and smaller loads on the frame > > > > At this point I think it is the best idea.... > > > > I'm not too much worried about the building of the jig and the frame.. > > already done this back in Italy for a formula race car with a precision > of > > 1mm over 2m of car... > > I m most worried to understand the dimension of parts ( i.e. the diameter > of > > the bearing of a good crank or the bearing of the fork), where I have > really > > no idea... > > > > It is evident.. that the fun it is either the construction of the frame > and > > ride it! > > > > --- > > Daniele Littera > > > > -----Messaggio originale----- > > Da: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] < > [email protected]]> Per > > conto di Jonathan Zerbe > > Inviato: martedì 2 novembre 2010 0.38 > > A: [email protected] > > Oggetto: Re: [WVU Cycling] Homemade Carbon Fiber MTB! > > > > Sounds like a terrible idea. First off, its alot more expensive and a > huge > > pain in the ass to build a bike from frame up than it is to buy a whole > > production bike (this goes for you downhill guys too). Trust me on this > > 100%. The other considerations are knowing what to do with the jig, > > especially when it comes to alignment of the bottom bracket and rear > > dropouts. It may be strong enough but the wheel could be crooked or the > > shifting/chainline wont work. Even big companies screw this up from time > to > > time. Anyway, by the time you get all this correct you could of bought a > > sweet production bike and be riding it every hour you would have spent > > building your own frame (which I assume is alot). > > > > I bet Cannondale aluminum frames are lighter than 3.7 lbs too. > > > > Sorry to kill your dream but if you really wanted to do this buy a whole > new > > bike first then you at least have something to ride while you take on > this > > project. Also as a person who has been riding for many years, I often > dream > > about getting a custom geometry bike, and despite having ridden alot of > > bikes, I still dont know what exact geometry I would want. > > > > This hits me at a sore spot that grew working at Cannondale and having to > > deal with things like this. You learn more by riding bikes then you do by > > reading forums. > > > > On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 12:11 AM, Daniele Littera < > [email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > Hi guys, > > > > > I know that it can be something very funny to read or even think > > > about, the largest companies invest milions of dollar in R&D for > > > lighter and stiffer models. but it not as difficult as it appear! > > > > > and more important I have not the target to build the lighest and > > > stiffest frame ever! > > > > > I already worked with carbon fiber with epoxy resin, it just needs a > > > little bit of experience, but everybody really can do it! > > > > > having said that, this is my plan: build an homemade hardtali MTB! > > > > > I just took the inspiration from this amazing guy: > > > > > the step-by-step workhttp://www.bmeres.com/carbonframe1.htm > > > > > and the final result http://www.bmeres.com/carbonframe.htm > > > > > for a total weight of 3.7 lbs, using 9 and 11 layers of carbon fiber > > > fabric (more o less 7 mm of thickness) > > > > > I remember that i don't care to make it extremely light... I want it > > > to last! I will be ok even if it will weigth 5 lbs! > > > > > i'm driven to do this for a lot of reason.... i have a shitty bike ( > > > very heavy and walmart style).. it is so interesting to build a bike > > > on my own!..it's cheap have an awesome light bike and possibly very > > > performing! > > > > > But obviously I lack of exeprience in MTB parts and technique! this is > > > where all of you guys could help me! > > > > > My first idea is basically to remove all the parts from my actual > > > bike. Disassemble from the frame the head tube , the rear drop-outs > > > and the BB Shell. These parts will be integrated in the new frame in > > > order to make easier the assembly and do not built these parts from > > > scratch! > > > > > I'll let you know with more details the characteristics of all the > > > parts that I have on my bike, like diameter of the crank.. type of > > > derailleurs.. and bla bla bla.. > > > > > Instead the second idea is to get rid of the bike on craiglist and > > > get money for that(except the hayes hydraulic brakes and the fork, > > > restoring the original parts), and buy new and used parts, but with > > > better quality like the crank, the gears, derailleurs, shifter wheels > > > and bla bla bla > > > > > obviously if someone has extra parts and doesn't know what to do with > > > I could buy them... > > > > > now, what do you think? In your opinion is it better the first or > > > second idea??? > > > > > I want to clarify that I dont want at this point to design a complete > > > new and revolutionary bike.. but I just want to built an easy frame, > > > with the geometric dimensions based on an actual hardtail frame, like > > > more or less the bike of Duncan or Todd. > > > > > Moreover, before even start to buy the carbon fiber structural > > > simulations will be done to verify that the structure can hold the > > > load ( i will use the european standard, cause i didnt find the > > > american ones). It will be an home made frame.. but under a rigid > > > engineering design process!!! > > > > > the cost of the frame will be around 400$ considering all the > > > materials. > > > > > I strongly ask for any kind of comments, critics, suggestions, help > > > > > thanks guys! > >
