YEAH!!!
On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 10:04 PM, Daniele Littera <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I’ll probably do so…. > > > > Cannondale TRAIL SL 29 2 > > --- > > Daniele Littera > > > Da: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Per > conto di Sequoya Moore > Inviato: martedì 2 novembre 2010 21.43 > A: [email protected] > Oggetto: Re: R: [WVU Cycling] Homemade Carbon Fiber MTB! > > > > Cannondale :D > > On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 6:50 PM, Daniele Littera <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Thanks Chad! > > > > Yeah right now i’m figuring out if specialized or cannondale…. > > > > I will definitively do it… and as soon as I will start to design it I’ll let > you know… > > > > I’ll let everybody know, so everyone can share its experience and ideas.. it > could be a nice project! > > > > --- > > Daniele Littera > > Graduate student in Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering > Research Assistant > West Virginia University > > Cell: +1 304-777-9941 > e-Mail: [email protected] > > LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/danielelittera > > > > Da: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Per > conto di Chad Jones > Inviato: martedì 2 novembre 2010 17.27 > A: [email protected] > Oggetto: Re: R: [WVU Cycling] Homemade Carbon Fiber MTB! > > > > Daniele, I will agree that the most cost efficient choice is to buy a new > bike. However, I am interested in your enthusiasm in trying to build a bike. > If you would like to look into this project further definitely email me. > [email protected] > > Chad > > On 11/02/10, Fastest Fat Kid <[email protected]> wrote: > > it's going to take you a very long time to build a frame and i can't > believe that you could go lighter than the frames todd and I are > riding. An incredible amount of R&D goes into which direction the > carbon is layed up and where it is placed. Our top tubes are so thin > that you can feel deflection when you press on them with your finger > while still maintaining stiffness that will rattle the teeth out of > your head if you ride it wrong. Go buy a bike and sell your > Mongoose. Some day when you're and old dude you can build a bike when > you have the time to devote to the project. > > On Nov 2, 1:22 am, "Daniele Littera" <[email protected]> > wrote: >> Thanks Zerbe! I was waiting your answer.. since I know you worked with >> cannondale.. >> >> Your idea was my third option (that I forgot to write) buy a production >> bike..still hardtail for 1K$... and then use the mongoose for this >> project... but with a longer term... may build a sort of light mtb for >> cyclocross..where there's less fatigue and smaller loads on the frame >> >> At this point I think it is the best idea.... >> >> I'm not too much worried about the building of the jig and the frame.. >> already done this back in Italy for a formula race car with a precision of >> 1mm over 2m of car... >> I m most worried to understand the dimension of parts ( i.e. the diameter >> of >> the bearing of a good crank or the bearing of the fork), where I have >> really >> no idea... >> >> It is evident.. that the fun it is either the construction of the frame >> and >> ride it! >> >> --- >> Daniele Littera >> >> -----Messaggio originale----- >> Da: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >> <[email protected]]> Per >> conto di Jonathan Zerbe >> Inviato: martedì 2 novembre 2010 0.38 >> A: [email protected] >> Oggetto: Re: [WVU Cycling] Homemade Carbon Fiber MTB! >> >> Sounds like a terrible idea. First off, its alot more expensive and a huge >> pain in the ass to build a bike from frame up than it is to buy a whole >> production bike (this goes for you downhill guys too). Trust me on this >> 100%. The other considerations are knowing what to do with the jig, >> especially when it comes to alignment of the bottom bracket and rear >> dropouts. It may be strong enough but the wheel could be crooked or the >> shifting/chainline wont work. Even big companies screw this up from time >> to >> time. Anyway, by the time you get all this correct you could of bought a >> sweet production bike and be riding it every hour you would have spent >> building your own frame (which I assume is alot). >> >> I bet Cannondale aluminum frames are lighter than 3.7 lbs too. >> >> Sorry to kill your dream but if you really wanted to do this buy a whole >> new >> bike first then you at least have something to ride while you take on this >> project. Also as a person who has been riding for many years, I often >> dream >> about getting a custom geometry bike, and despite having ridden alot of >> bikes, I still dont know what exact geometry I would want. >> >> This hits me at a sore spot that grew working at Cannondale and having to >> deal with things like this. You learn more by riding bikes then you do by >> reading forums. >> >> On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 12:11 AM, Daniele Littera >> <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> > Hi guys, >> >> > I know that it can be something very funny to read or even think >> > about, the largest companies invest milions of dollar in R&D for >> > lighter and stiffer models. but it not as difficult as it appear! >> >> > and more important I have not the target to build the lighest and >> > stiffest frame ever! >> >> > I already worked with carbon fiber with epoxy resin, it just needs a >> > little bit of experience, but everybody really can do it! >> >> > having said that, this is my plan: build an homemade hardtali MTB! >> >> > I just took the inspiration from this amazing guy: >> >> > the step-by-step workhttp://www.bmeres.com/carbonframe1.htm >> >> > and the final result http://www.bmeres.com/carbonframe.htm >> >> > for a total weight of 3.7 lbs, using 9 and 11 layers of carbon fiber >> > fabric (more o less 7 mm of thickness) >> >> > I remember that i don't care to make it extremely light... I want it >> > to last! I will be ok even if it will weigth 5 lbs! >> >> > i'm driven to do this for a lot of reason.... i have a shitty bike ( >> > very heavy and walmart style).. it is so interesting to build a bike >> > on my own!..it's cheap have an awesome light bike and possibly very >> > performing! >> >> > But obviously I lack of exeprience in MTB parts and technique! this is >> > where all of you guys could help me! >> >> > My first idea is basically to remove all the parts from my actual >> > bike. Disassemble from the frame the head tube , the rear drop-outs >> > and the BB Shell. These parts will be integrated in the new frame in >> > order to make easier the assembly and do not built these parts from >> > scratch! >> >> > I'll let you know with more details the characteristics of all the >> > parts that I have on my bike, like diameter of the crank.. type of >> > derailleurs.. and bla bla bla.. >> >> > Instead the second idea is to get rid of the bike on craiglist and >> > get money for that(except the hayes hydraulic brakes and the fork, >> > restoring the original parts), and buy new and used parts, but with >> > better quality like the crank, the gears, derailleurs, shifter wheels >> > and bla bla bla >> >> > obviously if someone has extra parts and doesn't know what to do with >> > I could buy them... >> >> > now, what do you think? In your opinion is it better the first or >> > second idea??? >> >> > I want to clarify that I dont want at this point to design a complete >> > new and revolutionary bike.. but I just want to built an easy frame, >> > with the geometric dimensions based on an actual hardtail frame, like >> > more or less the bike of Duncan or Todd. >> >> > Moreover, before even start to buy the carbon fiber structural >> > simulations will be done to verify that the structure can hold the >> > load ( i will use the european standard, cause i didnt find the >> > american ones). It will be an home made frame.. but under a rigid >> > engineering design process!!! >> >> > the cost of the frame will be around 400$ considering all the >> > materials. >> >> > I strongly ask for any kind of comments, critics, suggestions, help >> >> > thanks guys! > >
