Hi Richter,

Richter wrote:
> Hi Klaas,
>
>   
>> I was planning to make it a TWiki (twiki.org) site, but i am still  
>> looking for a server.
>>     
> We have used TWiki for a long time, but we switched to trac because:
> - TWiki is slow: every think is saved in text files and parsed every  
> time, the perl must restarted for every reload
>   
It is slow, but i did get a test site for 2 weeks lately, which is a 
Private Virtual Server, and there is no problem.
And at work it works just fine, so it is much related to the problem of 
having 50 virtual servers on one computer i think.
But you are right, perl needs to render it again and again.
Maybe that is resolved by FASTCGI??  I am not so familiar with how CGI 
and FAST CGI differ, and what advantage is there in the Apache perl 
module. But i do know is related to not having several perls etc.
> - initial Setup of TWiki is munch work and very complex, but very  
> flexible
>   
That is exactly why i like it. I tested Doxygen plugin, and it is fun.
> - TWiki brings to-much Pages and Webs (more then 100 Sites of  
> Documentation, Examples and so on !!!), which is for vistors and  
> users disturbing and complex
>   
Ooh, but we have so much experience now, that it is easy enough to 
remove all i want.
For visitors, it can be a bit overwhelming, but WYSIWYG editing is all i 
want.
> - no Bugtracking
> - no Subversion/CVS integration
>   
But TWIKI is in CVS ? But maybe i am misunderstanding.
> Trac has all together and we dont miss anything from twiki
>   
Oke, will have a look, license looks oke. There is also www.xwiki.org, 
which is in Java.
> - Milestones
> - Timeline (every new ticket, changeset, wiki changes are logged there)
> - easy Backtracking
> - Source Code Browsing
> - Simple Setup and Administration
> - Subversion integration (CVS is possible too), Viewing, Diffing of  
> changesets ...
> - lightweight gui, easy to use and to customize
> - Linking beetween Wiki and Source Repro (!!)
> - Doxygen plugin ...
>   
Sounds good!
There is of course my problem to invest time in this again.
Do you have experience with hosting this on cheap servers ( say < 50 
Euro per year)?
>
>   
>> In fact the worst thing about CVS is removing/moving things in/from  
>> there, file by file, at least i don't no any other way.
>> I don't know if subversion is much easier or not??
>>     
>
> Subversion is much better then CVS: (this are killer features, need  
> by every bigger project !!!, we use it for more then 3 Years)
> - easy renaming and moving  of files and directories (!) : svn mv  
> trunk/src/test/ trunk/test/src/
> - very easy branching : svn cp http://xyz/svn/trunk/ http://xyz/svn/ 
> branch/release-1.0/ and you are done
> - atomic commits, if commit fails in the middle of a large commit =>  
> automatic rollback
> - very good tool support for any platform
> - very stable
>   
I am planning to switch it the first release of wxArt2d.
But as always i have not enough time to do it all at once :-(.
This summer is actually house painting time ;-)

Thanks for the tip, i will certainly look into it.

Regards,

Klaas


 

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