> On Apr 6, 2017, at 10:39, Langer, Stephen A. (Fed) <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Jeremy --
>  
> If I don't use -N, openmotif (installed as a dependency of grace) insists 
> that that xorg-libXt needs to be installed with +flat_namespace.   The 
> installation will pause at that point so that xorg-libXt can be installed 
> with the explicit variant. 

All -N does is skip the prompt.

> When I used -N, I listed the previously requested ports, but I forgot to 
> select the flat_namespace variant.  I generated the list with "port echo 
> requested | cut -d ' ' -f 1" (which was a mistake), and then uninstalled and 
> ran "sudo port -N install `cat listofports`".  During that process, there was 
> no message about flat_namespace and the wrong variant was installed.  After 
> that, X11 wouldn't work no matter what I did, until I installed 
> xorg-server-devel.
>  
> Anyway, that's the reason that I thought that -N might have had an effect.  I 
> can't propose a mechanism, but there's some circumstantial evidence.
>  
> -- Steve
>  
> From: <[email protected]> on behalf of Jeremy Huddleston Sequoia 
> <[email protected]>
> Date: Thursday, April 6, 2017 at 12:56 PM
> To: "Langer, Stephen A. (Fed)" <[email protected]>
> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: X11 won't start
>  
> -N really has no effect on the build process.
>  
> Ok, I'll take a look at the sysdiagnose.  Send me the link offline, and I'll 
> look at it as soon as I can.
>  
>> On Apr 6, 2017, at 07:29, Langer, Stephen A. (Fed) <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> Hi Jeremy --
>> Thanks for getting back to me.
>> The init scripts aren’t the problem.  I haven’t changed them in years, and
>> I don’t have the same problem on a different Mac.  Just to be sure, I did
>> the test with a new user, and X11 crashes in the same way.  The obvious
>> difference between the broken Mac and the working one is that on the
>> broken one I tried to reinstall all of the ports at once, using -N, and on
>> the working Mac I didn’t use -N.  I don’t remember the order in which I
>> did the installation, though.
>> I’ll put the sysdiagnose output on NIST’s secure file transfer site and
>> send you a link to it.  I think it’ll choke our e-mail server.
>> -- Steve
>> On 4/6/17, 12:35 AM, "Jeremy Huddleston Sequoia" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>> You likely have an issue with one of your shell init scripts or a bad
>>> ~/.xinitrc present.  That's what is the cause of almost all such issues.
>>> Try creating a new user on your computer, logging in as that user, and
>>> launching X11.  If it works, then it's almost certainly ~/.xinitrc,
>>> ~/.profile, ~/.bashrc, ~/.bash_profile, etc.
>>> If it's not that, please take a sysdiagnose while X11 is restarting, and
>>> send it to me.
>>> --Jeremy
>>>> On Apr 5, 2017, at 07:23, Langer, Stephen A. (Fed)
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Hi --
>>>> I posted this note to macports-users, but didn't get a helpful
>>>> response, so I'm trying again here:
>>>> I just updated my computer to Sierra, and now X11 won't start.  I
>>>> presumed that I had messed up the macports migration, so I just
>>>> uninstalled everything and installed only xorg-server and xterm, but I'm
>>>> still getting the same error.  There's an "X11 quit unexpectedly"
>>>> dialog, which keeps reappearing when dismissed.  I have to log out to
>>>> get it to go away.
>>>> System.log is filled with lines like "X[6012]: no path for address
>>>> 0x1234567"
>>>> In case it's relevant, what I might have screwed up in the first
>>>> migration was that I tried to install only the requested ports, which
>>>> has worked for me in the past.  But this time I put them all on one
>>>> line, and used -N so that port wouldn't ask me for permission to install
>>>> the dependencies, and I could leave it to work on its own.  That ran
>>>> into problems caused by https://trac.macports.org/ticket/49379.  It
>>>> seemed to have installed xorg-libXt with +flat_namespace and then
>>>> reinstalled it without it, or vice versa (both were installed but I
>>>> forget which was active).  In any case, I uninstalled everything,
>>>> installed xorg-libXt first, using +flat_namespace, and then installed
>>>> all the other requested ports without -N so that I'd see if anything
>>>> went wrong.  I didn't see any errors, but X11 wouldn't start.  This
>>>> morning I tried installing only xorg-server and xterm, and it still
>>>> won't start.
>>>> Why is X11 failing to start?  How can I keep it from attempting to
>>>> start repeatedly, even after I've killed xterm or whatever other X11 app
>>>> I'm using?  What might have I done wrong in the installation and how can
>>>> I fix it?
>>>> Since that post, I have tried completely uninstalling macports,
>>>> reinstalling just xorg-server and xterm, and rebooting, but I'm still
>>>> seeing the same behavior.  Just to be sure that it's not a xterm
>>>> problem, I tried xeyes, which fails the same way.
>>>> Any suggestions would be appreciated!  Thank you.
>>>> -- Steve
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