Dear Heinz, Alex, Mike and Moritz,
Dear List,
the actual message I want to leave here is short -
but I think I have to give some explanations first so that my message
doesn`t irritate anyone here (probably a rather female way of saying
something, we like to explain things lengthy ;-)).
The professional background of writing this mail is, that mike and I
are working together at a project in which we are setting up
(educational) IT-Systems at schools in Kiel.
We want to use X2Go for this project and thats why I started reading
this list a couple of weeks ago; its also the reason why I am very
interested in having X2Go work well.
I have no technical IT-backgound, my contribution to and role in our
project is to set up and implement a well-performing structure for all
the communication that is needed (leading seminars, coaching,
mediation, moderation of meetings etc.).
The private background is that I am in relationship with mike - that
was first, the working together started only a few months ago.
One reason why I really enjoy working in an IT-context using Open
Source Software is because I am deeply moved and inspired by the
social, political and collaborative context in which every step of
development is taking place.
Thats my context in which I am reading this mailing-list.
Now I have just read Mikes last mail and the only thing I want to
contribute is:
YOU GUYS MUST TALK!
The guys I mean with that are Moritz, Alex, Heinz and Mike.
As far as I can see the four of you are all giving your best to do a
very good job - but you might generate heavy misunderstandings and
lots of extra work if your communication at this point of the
developing process is taking place "only" via mail and programming.
There are very cheap telephone numbers which you can use for
conference calls, I could give some of that numbers to Mike.
I think it would not take much time to have a conversation on the
phone, but it could take a lot of time if you dont talk alltogether
about the next steps necessary to take.
I am convinced that it would take a lot of stress out of the process,
that it would move forward the whole project and that it would bring
the freedom back into the space of the mailing list.
And, very important: NOTHING IS WRONG - its all development ;-).
Angela
Zitat von Mike Gabriel <[email protected]>:
Hi Moritz,
On Do 27 Jan 2011 18:55:51 CET Moritz Struebe wrote:
Hi Heinz,
don't put too much work into it. We already started at
https://code.launchpad.net/~siretart/+archive/x2go and it's
probably not worth doing it twice.
Basically the code is imported from our git-repo (
http://i4git.informatik.uni-erlangen.de/ ) and then built on
launchpad.
x2goagent gave us some trouble, but we hope it will build tonight.
The x2go clients are next on our todo-list. That way we should have
a minimal system up and running soon. At the moment we are only
building for lenny as this is the plattform we test on. Once
everything is running there must be a transition from this
"private" environment to a more open one, of course. But we want
to be able to walk, before we start running. :)
Cheers
Morty
as I understand your current way of handling things you are actually
forking X2go for a university internal project. I am completely
fine with a fork, but the please:
(a) state it officially as a fork
(b) name the project differently
My main point is that you do not at all cooperate, discuss next
steps etc. You are just doing your thing. But maybe I missed part
of the discussion (private correspondence?)...
Complete disapproval of your communication methods,
Mike
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