To be fair, there were committers from Sun too and at least two people on
the PMC who I believe never worked for either.

Others in the community have had a long time (over a decade) to volunteer
if they genuinely wanted to get involved. If folks are emerging now who
want to pick up the ball there would probably need to be a new PMC.

Thanks.

Michael Glavassevich
XML Parser Development
IBM Toronto Lab
E-mail: mrgla...@ca.ibm.com
E-mail: mrgla...@apache.org

David Carver <d_a_car...@yahoo.com> wrote on 05/20/2011 12:51:40 PM:

> I just cloned the xalan-j trunk, and there have been no active commits
> to Xalan-J in the last 17 months.
>
> So for all intents and purposes, I would suspect that none of the
> existing PMC members for Xalan-J are actively involved.   The problem
> with Xalan and Xalan-J in general was the lack of project diversity, as
> it was primarily staffed by IBM supplied committers, and once their
> interests moved elsewhere development pretty much stopped on on Xalan-J
> at least.
>
> So I doubt there are 3 active members of the PMC to do anything.
>
> Is there anything in the community by laws that allows nomination of new
> PMC or committers if an existing set of PMC members goes inactive?
>
> Dave
>
> On 05/20/2011 12:41 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
> > Hi Steve,
> >
> > Thanks for your message, comments inline.
> >
> > On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 10:48 PM, Steve Hathaway<shath...@e-z.net>
wrote:
> >> ...I am not a member of the Xalan PMC, but would like to help create
> >> an official release of the Xalan-C++ version 1.11 library.  I am
hoping
> >> to have the documentation ready for review in July and ready to
> >> publish in September....
> > Ok - good too see that there's some activity.
> >
> >> I am unsure of what you need for the ASF board meeting...
> >> ....At present I am relying on the few remaining committers to apply
> >> patches to the Xalan-C++ SVN repository....
> > What we need from the board's point of view is a PMC with at least 3
> > active members, so as to be able to vote on releases, and a responsive
> > PMC chair who communicates with the board according to the PMC report
> > schedule (usually every 3 months). The last board report we got from
> > Xalan was in November 2011 [1], and was rejected as insufficiently
> > detailed, so that needs to be fixed.
> >
> > It also seems to me like there are no active moderators for the
> > priv...@xalan.apache.org mailing list, messages that we sent there
> > have not appeared in the archives.
> >
> > Do you think the project can motivate existing PMC members to fill
> > these gaps? Or are there only committers remaining with no active PMC
> > members?
> >
> > -Bertrand
> >
> > [1] http://www.apache.org/foundation/records/minutes/2010/
> board_minutes_2010_11_17.txt
> >
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