I think what Tom is trying to convey is that you've chosen a hard row to hoe 
for yourself.  Compiling and installing things by hand on the command line can 
be problematic for even people familiar with the command line.  I sometimes 
have to do a lot of research to figure out issues, and I've been doing the UNIX 
command line, and GNU autoconf based installations for nearly 20 years now.

On Sep 20, 2010, at 10:09 PM, T Wegner wrote:

> I thought, 1) if people are having trouble with it, I want to avoid it, as I 
> have no command line experience, and 2) as in the above example and others, 
> it was unclear to me exactly who was saying what, and to whom . . . at times 
> it sounded as though the author and "Dick" were 2 different people, at other 
> times, not.

My understanding is that the information on Fink being problematic is mildly 
old.  Either way, avoiding it because you have no command line experience and 
compiling by hand is much like saying that you've heard that people are having 
problems buying bolts from Home Depot, and because you have limited experience 
in machining bolts, you're going to machine your own.  You're not avoiding the 
command line by going the direction you're headed, you're diving head first 
into it.

> I did a search for libtiff and mac this evening, came up with a source (for a 
> different program, but like this one, need to install it first - called it a 
> "dependency"), and the instructions in the last post. I did that, watched as 
> the screen scrolled by with lots of alpha-numerics, saw a number of "no" 
> conditions and it ended with some warning/errors. When I tried to continue 
> with the geotiff configure and make, I ended up with the same "configure: 
> error: You will need to substantially rewrite libxtiff to build libgeotiff 
> without libtiff" message. I moved the libtiff library out of the tiff-3.9.4 
> folder and into the libgeotiff folder thinking it did not know the where the 
> libtiff library was, that did nothing, and I stopped.

To compile things for my binary distribution, I have the following packages 
downloaded as prerequisites on MacOS X 10.5:

curl-7.19.6
db-4.8.24
gdal-1.6.1
lesstif-0.95.2
libgeotiff-1.2.5
pcre-8.00
proj-4.5.0b4
shapelib-1.2.10
tiff-3.8.2
ImageMagick-6.5.4-5

And of course, the CVS version of Xastir checked out with fresh sources.  I use 
the following configure lines with the packages:

curl-7.19.6:
        ./configure
db-4.8.24:
        ../dist/configure
gdal-1.6.1:
        ./configure
lesstif-0.95.2:
        ./configure
libgeotiff-1.2.5:
        ./configure --with-ld-shared="gcc -dynamiclib -all_load --install_name 
/usr/local/lib/"
pcre-8.0.0:
        ./configure
proj-4.5.0b4:
        ./configure
shapelib-1.2.10:
        DOES NOT USE GNU AUTCONF.
tiff-3.8.2:
        ./configure
ImageMagick-6.5.4-5:
        ./configure --without-modules --disable-installed --enable-embeddable

I use a configure line for Xastir something like:
        ./configure --without-ax25 --without-festival --without-gpsman 
--with-bdb-libdir =/usr/local/BerkeleyDB.4.8/lib 
--with-bdb-incdir=/usr/local/BerkeleyDB.4.8/include

If you have problems finding these files, I made them available for download 
at: 

http://www.nh6z.net/xastir-distfiles/

Note that the list is not in any particular order.  You may need to compile one 
thing before another, I'd have to dig out my notes to find out which ones are 
that way.  As you've already discovered, libtiff needs to be installed before 
libgeotiff.

> Re: other discussion about intel mac, it will be some time before I can 
> afford a new macbook, and even then, I wouldn't dream of taking it into the 
> field - only older computers for that for me.

I guess I'm rich.  My 2.33GHz Core 2 Duo MacBook Pro is nearly falling apart 
after five years of use in college and law school.  I'm getting ready to get 
rid of my last PPC box.

I'm the guy who packaged up the binary distribution for Intel Macs.  I can 
probably provide some commentary for you, but I'm fairly busy until the DCC is 
over with in Vancouver next weekend.  I've had conferences to go to most of 
this month, so it's been keeping me behind on my e-mail.

> 73
> Tom

--
Jeremy McDermond (NH6Z)
Xenotropic Systems
[email protected]

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