On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 09:54:53PM +0200, we recorded a bogon-computron 
collision of the <f1...@free.fr> flavor, containing:
> "Is there anyone left trying to run Xastir on really, really ancient 
> operating systems? ??: yes on OSX 10.5.8 on a 1st gen mac mini??? sorry. 

Sorry, that's not ancient enough :)  I'm talking about stuff more from the 
1990s, I think OS X 10.5.8 probably has standard compliant compilers.

> > Le 11 mai 2021 ?? 20:37, Jason Godfrey <godfr...@gmail.com> a ??crit :
> > 
> > Hello.
> > 
> > My suspicion is anyone running that old of a system doesn't have running
> > the latest software as a priority, so we can get by suggesting running
> > versions before a particular date.
> > 
> > - Jason
> > 
> > On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 11:12 AM Tom Russo <ru...@bogodyn.org> wrote:
> > 
> >> So, here's a thing to ask the community at large:
> >> 
> >> Is there anyone left trying to run Xastir on really, really ancient
> >> operating
> >> systems?
> >> 
> >> A lot of the things that the most recent autocof is flagging as "obsolete"
> >> like "AC_HEADER_STDC" and "AC_HEADER_TIME" is obsolete ONLY because most
> >> modern
> >> systems are so compatible with each other that these things are almost
> >> never
> >> needed anymore.  They were the norm back when people were running all sorts
> >> of proprietary Unix systems like Slowlaris, AIX, etc., and these systems
> >> had
> >> compilers that predated most POSIX standards.
> >> 
> >> These days there are very clear standards that all modern systems abide by,
> >> and this sort of clumsy portability hackage is obsolescent.  The GNU folks
> >> are increasingly deprecating things that harken back to such old systems.
> >> 
> >> I am fixing the actually obsolete autoconf stuff that *isn't* specifically
> >> targeted at backward portability to ancient systems, which will fix most
> >> of
> >> the warnings shown in this email (like the AC_LANG, AC_TRY, etc. warnings),
> >> as these all have straightforward equivalents in modern autoconf that have
> >> been present in all versions of autoconf since 2006.
> >> 
> >> BUt removing things like AC_HEADER_STDC and AC_HEADER_TIME and friends also
> >> means removing all the clumsy portability code in Xastir source that NEEDS
> >> those probes, along with a number of completely unnecessary probes for
> >> standard
> >> POSIX functions and the ifdefs that work around their absence.  That is
> >> more
> >> than I can do in a quick hacking run in between longer hacking runs as
> >> part of
> >> my day job.
> >> 
> >> It would be a good idea at some point to declare that newer versions of
> >> Xastir
> >> will only run on systems that support the C standard, and not on
> >> retrocomputing
> >> platforms that use proprietary, pre-standard compilers.  Then we can
> >> actually
> >> remove a lot of unnecessary portability kludges from the late 90s.
> >> 
> >> In the meantime, however, new users of Xastir will start seeing more of
> >> these
> >> confusing warnings from "boostrap" that imply something is wrong and
> >> telling
> >> them to run "autoupdate" when they really should just ignore the warnings.
> >> 
> >> On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 09:37:12AM -0600, we recorded a bogon-computron
> >> collision of the <ru...@bogodyn.org> flavor, containing:
> >>> The things that autoconf is complaining about are "obsolete" as of
> >> autoconf
> >>> 2.60, and Xastir's autoconf is meant to be compatible with much older
> >>> versions.
> >>> 
> >>> It looks like 2.60 is old enough (2006) that it should be no problem at
> >> all
> >>> to update our configure process to require it instead of 2.53, and fix
> >>> these antiquated uses.  I'm testing that now.
> >>> 
> >>> I second Jason's suggestion that you should clean your build directory
> >> before
> >>> trying to rebuild Xastir on a newly upgraded system.
> >>> 
> >>> I do not recommend that you run autoupdate, just let autoconf complain
> >> about
> >>> the obsolete uses for now.
> >>> 
> >>> On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 09:19:02AM -0500, we recorded a bogon-computron
> >> collision of the <godfr...@gmail.com> flavor, containing:
> >>>> Hello.
> >>>> 
> >>>> I was able to build xastir on 11.3.1, so this may be local issue. My
> >> first
> >>>> suggestion is doing a "make clean" and then rebuilding. From your
> >> output it
> >>>> looks like you may have old .o files left over from a previous build.
> >>>> 
> >>>> If that doesn't work, my next suggestion would be to see if you have
> >> up to
> >>>> date X 11 libraries installed (sounds like you get them from macports.)
> >>>> 
> >>>> 73
> >>>> - Jason
> >>>> 
> >>>> On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 8:38 AM f1mhv <f1...@free.fr> wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>>> Dear Group,
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> I have updated the laptop to ?? Big Sur ?? OSX 10.3.1  including
> >> Xcode tools
> >>>>> and Macports. I tried du rebuild from source following git pull and
> >> here is
> >>>>> what i got:
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> " Xastir % bash bootstrap.sh
> >>>>>    6) Removing autom4te.cache directory...
> >>>>>    5) Running aclocal...
> >>>>>    4) Running autoheader...
> >>>>>    3) Running autoconf...
> >>>>> configure.ac:50: warning: The macro `AC_GNU_SOURCE' is obsolete.
> >>>>> configure.ac:50: You should run autoupdate.
> >>>>> ./lib/autoconf/specific.m4:312: AC_GNU_SOURCE is expanded from...
> >>>>> configure.ac:50: the top level
> >>>>> configure.ac:71: warning: The macro `AC_LANG_C' is obsolete.
> >>>>> configure.ac:71: You should run autoupdate.
> >>>>> ./lib/autoconf/c.m4:72: AC_LANG_C is expanded from...
> >>>>> acinclude.m4:568: ACX_PTHREAD is expanded from...
> >>>>> configure.ac:71: the top level
> >>>>> configure.ac:71: warning: The macro `AC_TRY_LINK' is obsolete.
> >>>>> configure.ac:71: You should run autoupdate.
> >>>>> ./lib/autoconf/general.m4:2920: AC_TRY_LINK is expanded from...
> >>>>> acinclude.m4:568: ACX_PTHREAD is expanded from...
> >>>>> configure.ac:71: the top level
> >>>>> configure.ac:74: warning: The macro `AC_TRY_COMPILE' is obsolete.
> >>>>> configure.ac:74: You should run autoupdate.
> >>>>> ./lib/autoconf/general.m4:2847: AC_TRY_COMPILE is expanded from...
> >>>>> acinclude.m4:51: XASTIR_COMPILER_FLAGS is expanded from...
> >>>>> configure.ac:74: the top level
> >>>>> configure.ac:289: warning: The macro `AC_HEADER_STDC' is obsolete.
> >>>>> configure.ac:289: You should run autoupdate.
> >>>>> ./lib/autoconf/headers.m4:704: AC_HEADER_STDC is expanded from...
> >>>>> configure.ac:289: the top level
> >>>>> configure.ac:303: warning: The macro `AC_HEADER_TIME' is obsolete.
> >>>>> configure.ac:303: You should run autoupdate.
> >>>>> ./lib/autoconf/headers.m4:743: AC_HEADER_TIME is expanded from...
> >>>>> configure.ac:303: the top level
> >>>>> configure.ac:305: warning: The macro `AC_TYPE_SIGNAL' is obsolete.
> >>>>> configure.ac:305: You should run autoupdate.
> >>>>> ./lib/autoconf/types.m4:776: AC_TYPE_SIGNAL is expanded from...
> >>>>> configure.ac:305: the top level
> >>>>> configure.ac:326: warning: The macro `AC_TRY_COMPILE' is obsolete.
> >>>>> configure.ac:326: You should run autoupdate.
> >>>>> ./lib/autoconf/general.m4:2847: AC_TRY_COMPILE is expanded from...
> >>>>> acinclude.m4:559: AC_CHECK_GMTOFF is expanded from...
> >>>>> configure.ac:326: the top level
> >>>>> configure.ac:582: warning: The macro `AC_TRY_COMPILE' is obsolete.
> >>>>> configure.ac:582: You should run autoupdate.
> >>>>> ./lib/autoconf/general.m4:2847: AC_TRY_COMPILE is expanded from...
> >>>>> acinclude.m4:1032: XASTIR_BERKELEY_DB_CHK is expanded from...
> >>>>> configure.ac:582: the top level
> >>>>> configure.ac:582: warning: The macro `AC_TRY_LINK' is obsolete.
> >>>>> configure.ac:582: You should run autoupdate.
> >>>>> ./lib/autoconf/general.m4:2920: AC_TRY_LINK is expanded from...
> >>>>> acinclude.m4:937: XASTIR_BERKELEY_DB_CHK_LIB is expanded from...
> >>>>> lib/m4sugar/m4sh.m4:699: AS_IF is expanded from...
> >>>>> ./lib/autoconf/general.m4:2823: _AC_COMPILE_IFELSE is expanded
> >> from...
> >>>>> ./lib/autoconf/general.m4:2839: AC_COMPILE_IFELSE is expanded from...
> >>>>> ./lib/autoconf/general.m4:2847: AC_TRY_COMPILE is expanded from...
> >>>>> acinclude.m4:1032: XASTIR_BERKELEY_DB_CHK is expanded from...
> >>>>> configure.ac:582: the top level
> >>>>> configure.ac:645: warning: The macro `AC_TRY_LINK' is obsolete.
> >>>>> configure.ac:645: You should run autoupdate.
> >>>>> ./lib/autoconf/general.m4:2920: AC_TRY_LINK is expanded from...
> >>>>> configure.ac:645: the top level
> >>>>>    2) Running automake...
> >>>>>    1) Generating derived language files.....
> >>>>> Bootstrap complete.
> >>>>> ??
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> If running ?? autoupdate ??:
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> "Xastir % autoupdate
> >>>>> configure.ac:289: warning: The preprocessor macro `STDC_HEADERS' is
> >>>>> obsolete.
> >>>>>  Except in unusual embedded environments, you can safely include all
> >>>>>  ISO C90 headers unconditionally.
> >>>>> configure.ac:303: warning: Update your code to rely only on
> >>>>> HAVE_SYS_TIME_H,
> >>>>> then remove this warning and the obsolete code below it.
> >>>>> All current systems provide time.h; it need not be checked for.
> >>>>> Not all systems provide sys/time.h, but those that do, all allow
> >>>>> you to include it and time.h simultaneously.
> >>>>> configure.ac:305: warning: your code may safely assume C89
> >> semantics that
> >>>>> RETSIGTYPE is void.
> >>>>> Remove this warning and the `AC_CACHE_CHECK' when you adjust the
> >> code.
> >>>>> "
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> then: "../configure --prefix=/opt/local
> >>>>> --with-bdb-incdir=/opt/local/include/db60/
> >>>>> --with-bdb-libdir=/opt/local/lib/db60/
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> gives:
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> "checking for a BSD-compatible install... /opt/local/bin/ginstall -c
> >>>>> checking whether build environment is sane... yes
> >>>>> checking for a race-free mkdir -p... /opt/local/bin/gmkdir -p
> >>>>> checking for gawk... gawk
> >>>>> checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes
> >>>>> checking whether make supports nested variables... yes
> >>>>> checking whether make supports nested variables... (cached) yes
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Configuring xastir 2.1.7
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> checking build system type... x86_64-apple-darwin20.4.0
> >>>>> checking host system type... x86_64-apple-darwin20.4.0
> >>>>> checking whether make supports the include directive... yes (GNU
> >> style)
> >>>>> checking for gcc... gcc
> >>>>> checking whether the C compiler works... yes
> >>>>> checking for C compiler default output file name... a.out
> >>>>> checking for suffix of executables...
> >>>>> checking whether we are cross compiling... no
> >>>>> checking for suffix of object files... o
> >>>>> checking whether the compiler supports GNU C... yes
> >>>>> checking whether gcc accepts -g... yes
> >>>>> checking for gcc option to enable C11 features... none needed
> >>>>> checking whether gcc understands -c and -o together... yes
> >>>>> checking dependency style of gcc... gcc3
> >>>>> checking dependency style of gcc... (cached) gcc3
> >>>>> checking for stdio.h... yes
> >>>>> checking for stdlib.h... yes
> >>>>> checking for string.h... yes
> >>>>> checking for inttypes.h... yes
> >>>>> checking for stdint.h... yes
> >>>>> checking for strings.h... yes
> >>>>> checking for sys/stat.h... yes
> >>>>> checking for sys/types.h... yes
> >>>>> checking for unistd.h... yes
> >>>>> checking for wchar.h... yes
> >>>>> checking for minix/config.h... no
> >>>>> checking for sys/time.h... yes
> >>>>> checking for vfork.h... no
> >>>>> checking for sys/param.h... yes
> >>>>> checking whether it is safe to define __EXTENSIONS__... yes
> >>>>> checking whether _XOPEN_SOURCE should be defined... no
> >>>>> checking for gcc... (cached) gcc
> >>>>> checking whether the compiler supports GNU C... (cached) yes
> >>>>> checking whether gcc accepts -g... (cached) yes
> >>>>> checking for gcc option to enable C11 features... (cached) none
> >> needed
> >>>>> checking whether gcc understands -c and -o together... (cached) yes
> >>>>> checking dependency style of gcc... (cached) gcc3
> >>>>> checking dependency style of gcc... (cached) gcc3
> >>>>> checking how to run the C preprocessor... gcc -E
> >>>>> checking whether ln -s works... yes
> >>>>> checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... (cached) yes
> >>>>> checking for gawk... (cached) gawk
> >>>>> checking for ranlib... ranlib
> >>>>> checking for devices... found none and none
> >>>>> checking for search paths... done
> >>>>> checking for the pthreads library -lpthreads... no
> >>>>> checking whether pthreads work without any flags... yes
> >>>>> checking for joinable pthread attribute... PTHREAD_CREATE_JOINABLE
> >>>>> checking if more special flags are required for pthreads... no
> >>>>> checking for cc_r... gcc
> >>>>> checking whether compiler accepts -Wno-unused-parameter... yes
> >>>>> checking for compiler flags... using -g -O2 -pipe -W -Wall
> >> -Wpointer-arith
> >>>>> -Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-unused-parameter
> >>>>> checking for system... Darwin
> >>>>> checking for gm... /opt/local/bin/gm
> >>>>> checking for /usr/bin/gm.exe... no
> >>>>> checking for lpr... /usr/bin/lpr
> >>>>> checking for gv... no
> >>>>> checking for festival... no
> >>>>> checking for gpsman... no
> >>>>> checking for X... libraries , headers
> >>>>> checking for gethostbyname... yes
> >>>>> checking for connect... yes
> >>>>> checking for remove... yes
> >>>>> checking for shmat... yes
> >>>>> checking for IceConnectionNumber in -lICE... yes
> >>>>> checking for library containing tan... none required
> >>>>> checking for XextAddDisplay in -lXext... yes
> >>>>> checking for XtDisplay in -lXt... yes
> >>>>> checking for XmTextFindString in -lXm... yes
> >>>>> checking for sed... /usr/bin/sed
> >>>>> checking for mv... /bin/mv
> >>>>> checking for xfontsel... /opt/X11/bin/xfontsel
> >>>>> checking for curl/curl.h... yes
> >>>>> checking for curl_global_init in -lcurl... yes
> >>>>> checking for main in -lcompat... no
> >>>>> checking for sched_yield in -lrt... no
> >>>>> checking whether byte ordering is bigendian... no
> >>>>> checking for Motif headers... in default path
> >>>>> checking for Motif libraries... in default path
> >>>>> checking for size_t... yes
> >>>>> checking for working alloca.h... yes
> >>>>> checking for alloca... yes
> >>>>> checking for dirent.h that defines DIR... yes
> >>>>> checking for library containing opendir... none required
> >>>>> checking for grep that handles long lines and -e...
> >> /opt/local/bin/ggrep
> >>>>> checking for egrep... /opt/local/bin/ggrep -E
> >>>>> checking for sys/wait.h that is POSIX.1 compatible... yes
> >>>>> checking for argz.h... no
> >>>>> checking for arpa/inet.h... yes
> >>>>> checking for fcntl.h... yes
> >>>>> checking for limits.h... yes
> >>>>> checking for locale.h... yes
> >>>>> checking for malloc.h... no
> >>>>> checking for math.h... yes
> >>>>> checking for netdb.h... yes
> >>>>> checking for netinet/in.h... yes
> >>>>> checking for nl_types.h... yes
> >>>>> checking for stdarg.h... yes
> >>>>> checking for stddef.h... yes
> >>>>> checking for stdlib.h... (cached) yes
> >>>>> checking for string.h... (cached) yes
> >>>>> checking for strings.h... (cached) yes
> >>>>> checking for sys/file.h... yes
> >>>>> checking for sys/ioctl.h... yes
> >>>>> checking for sys/param.h... (cached) yes
> >>>>> checking for sys/socket.h... yes
> >>>>> checking for sys/time.h... (cached) yes
> >>>>> checking for signal.h... yes
> >>>>> checking for termios.h... yes
> >>>>> checking for unistd.h... (cached) yes
> >>>>> checking for an ANSI C-conforming const... yes
> >>>>> checking for uid_t in sys/types.h... yes
> >>>>> checking for inline... inline
> >>>>> checking for pid_t... yes
> >>>>> checking for size_t... (cached) yes
> >>>>> checking return type of signal handlers... void
> >>>>> checking whether struct tm is in sys/time.h or time.h... time.h
> >>>>> checking for gcc options needed to detect all undeclared
> >> functions... none
> >>>>> needed
> >>>>> checking for struct tm.tm_zone... yes
> >>>>> checking for socklen_t... yes
> >>>>> checking for sighandler_t... no
> >>>>> checking for sig_t... yes
> >>>>> checking for sigjmp_buf... yes
> >>>>> checking for gmtoff in struct tm... yes
> >>>>> checking for fork... yes
> >>>>> checking for vfork... yes
> >>>>> checking for alarm... yes
> >>>>> checking for getpagesize... yes
> >>>>> checking for working fork... yes
> >>>>> checking for working vfork... (cached) yes
> >>>>> checking whether gcc needs -traditional... no
> >>>>> checking whether getpgrp requires zero arguments... yes
> >>>>> checking for GNU libc compatible malloc... yes
> >>>>> checking for working mktime... no
> >>>>> checking for working mmap... yes
> >>>>> checking whether lstat correctly handles trailing slash... no
> >>>>> checking whether stat accepts an empty string... no
> >>>>> checking for strftime... yes
> >>>>> checking for working strtod... yes
> >>>>> checking for __argz_count... no
> >>>>> checking for __argz_next... no
> >>>>> checking for __argz_stringify... no
> >>>>> checking for alarm... (cached) yes
> >>>>> checking for dcgettext... no
> >>>>> checking for getcwd... yes
> >>>>> checking for getpgrp... yes
> >>>>> checking for gethostbyname... (cached) yes
> >>>>> checking for gethostname... yes
> >>>>> checking for gettimeofday... yes
> >>>>> checking for getwd... yes
> >>>>> checking for inet_ntoa... yes
> >>>>> checking for memmove... yes
> >>>>> checking for mempcpy... no
> >>>>> checking for memset... yes
> >>>>> checking for mkdir... yes
> >>>>> checking for munmap... yes
> >>>>> checking for pow... yes
> >>>>> checking for putenv... yes
> >>>>> checking for select... yes
> >>>>> checking for setenv... yes
> >>>>> checking for setlocale... yes
> >>>>> checking for settimeofday... yes
> >>>>> checking for signal... yes
> >>>>> checking for sigignore... yes
> >>>>> checking for snprintf... yes
> >>>>> checking for socket... yes
> >>>>> checking for sqrt... yes
> >>>>> checking for stpcpy... yes
> >>>>> checking for strcasecmp... yes
> >>>>> checking for strchr... yes
> >>>>> checking for strdup... yes
> >>>>> checking for strerror... yes
> >>>>> checking for strncasecmp... yes
> >>>>> checking for strpbrk... yes
> >>>>> checking for strptime... yes
> >>>>> checking for strrchr... yes
> >>>>> checking for strstr... yes
> >>>>> checking for strtof... yes
> >>>>> checking for strtol... yes
> >>>>> checking for strtoul... yes
> >>>>> checking for tzset... yes
> >>>>> checking for vsnprintf... yes
> >>>>> checking for pthread_mutexattr_setkind_np... no
> >>>>> checking for pthread_mutexattr_settype... yes
> >>>>> checking for strndup... yes
> >>>>> checking for roundf... yes
> >>>>> checking for proj_create_crs_to_crs in -lproj... no
> >>>>> checking for pj_init in -lproj... no
> >>>>> checking for shapefil.h... yes
> >>>>> checking for DBFOpen in -lshp... yes
> >>>>> checking for pcre.h... yes
> >>>>> checking for pcre_compile in -lpcre... yes
> >>>>> checking for X11/xpm.h... yes
> >>>>> checking for library containing XpmWriteFileFromPixmap... -lXpm
> >>>>> *** Warning: geotiff requires libproj.
> >>>>> checking for netax25/ax25.h... no
> >>>>> checking if db.h is exists and is usable... yes
> >>>>> checking for a library containing db_create... -ldb
> >>>>> checking for GraphicsMagick-config...
> >> /opt/local/bin/GraphicsMagick-config
> >>>>> checking for magick/api.h... yes
> >>>>> checking for WriteImage in -lGraphicsMagick... yes
> >>>>> checking that generated files are newer than configure... done
> >>>>> configure: creating ./config.status
> >>>>> config.status: creating Makefile
> >>>>> config.status: creating callpass/Makefile
> >>>>> config.status: creating config/Makefile
> >>>>> config.status: creating help/Makefile
> >>>>> config.status: creating scripts/Makefile
> >>>>> config.status: creating src/Makefile
> >>>>> config.status: creating src/rtree/Makefile
> >>>>> config.status: creating symbols/Makefile
> >>>>> config.status: creating xastir.spec
> >>>>> config.status: creating xastir-min.spec
> >>>>> config.status: creating xastir-lsb.spec
> >>>>> config.status: creating scripts/get-BOMdata
> >>>>> config.status: creating scripts/get-NWSdata
> >>>>> config.status: creating scripts/get-gnis
> >>>>> config.status: creating scripts/get-pop
> >>>>> config.status: creating scripts/get-fcc-rac.pl
> >>>>> config.status: creating scripts/icontable.pl
> >>>>> config.status: creating config.h
> >>>>> config.status: config.h is unchanged
> >>>>> config.status: executing depfiles commands
> >>>>> ===========================================
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> xastir 2.1.7 has been configured to use the following
> >>>>> options and external libraries:
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> MINIMUM OPTIONS:
> >>>>>  ShapeLib (Vector maps) .................... : yes
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> RECOMMENDED OPTIONS:
> >>>>>  Xpm / Snapshots ........................... : yes
> >>>>> -n   GraphicsMagick/ImageMagick (Raster maps) .. :
> >>>>> yes (GraphicsMagick)
> >>>>>  pcre (Shapefile customization) ............ : yes
> >>>>>  Berkeley DB map caching-Raster map speedups : yes
> >>>>>  internet map retrieval .................... : yes (libcurl)
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> FOR THE ADVENTUROUS:
> >>>>>  AX25 (Linux Kernel I/O Drivers) ........... : no
> >>>>>  libproj (USGS Topos & Aerial Photos) ...... : no
> >>>>>  GeoTiff (USGS Topos & Aerial Photos) ...... : no
> >>>>>  Festival (Text-to-speech) ................. : no
> >>>>>  GPSMan/gpsmanshp (GPS downloads) .......... : no
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> xastir will be installed in /opt/local/bin.
> >>>>> Type 'make' to build Xastir (Use 'gmake' instead on some systems).
> >>>>> ??
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> then: ?? make ??
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> "/Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/usr/bin/make
> >> all-recursive
> >>>>> Making all in src
> >>>>> Making all in rtree
> >>>>> make[3]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
> >>>>> rm -f compiledate.c compiledate.o
> >>>>> echo 'char gitstring[] = "'"`../../scripts/XastirGitStamp.sh
> >> ../..`"'";'
> >>>>>>> compiledate.c
> >>>>>  CC       compiledate.o
> >>>>>  GEN      xastir
> >>>>> ld: warning: directory not found for option '-L/sw/lib'
> >>>>> ld: warning: dylib (/opt/local/lib/libXt.dylib) was built for newer
> >> macOS
> >>>>> version (11.3) than being linked (11.0)
> >>>>> ld: warning: dylib (/opt/local/lib/libX11.dylib) was built for newer
> >> macOS
> >>>>> version (11.3) than being linked (11.0)
> >>>>> ld: warning: dylib (/opt/local/lib/libjasper.dylib) was built for
> >> newer
> >>>>> macOS version (11.3) than being linked (11.0)
> >>>>> ld: warning: dylib (/opt/local/lib/libtiff.dylib) was built for newer
> >>>>> macOS version (11.2) than being linked (11.0)
> >>>>> ld: warning: dylib (/opt/local/lib/libpng16.dylib) was built for
> >> newer
> >>>>> macOS version (11.3) than being linked (11.0)
> >>>>> ld: warning: dylib (/opt/local/lib/libbz2.dylib) was built for newer
> >> macOS
> >>>>> version (11.3) than being linked (11.0)
> >>>>> ld: warning: dylib (/opt/local/lib/libxml2.dylib) was built for newer
> >>>>> macOS version (11.3) than being linked (11.0)
> >>>>> ld: warning: dylib (/opt/local/lib/libz.dylib) was built for newer
> >> macOS
> >>>>> version (11.3) than being linked (11.0)
> >>>>> ld: warning: dylib (/opt/local/lib/libXext.dylib) was built for newer
> >>>>> macOS version (11.3) than being linked (11.0)
> >>>>> ld: warning: dylib (/opt/local/lib/libSM.dylib) was built for newer
> >> macOS
> >>>>> version (11.3) than being linked (11.0)
> >>>>> ld: warning: dylib (/opt/local/lib/libICE.dylib) was built for newer
> >> macOS
> >>>>> version (11.3) than being linked (11.0)
> >>>>> ld: warning: dylib (/opt/local/lib/libcurl.dylib) was built for newer
> >>>>> macOS version (11.2) than being linked (11.0)
> >>>>> Making all in config
> >>>>> make[2]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
> >>>>> Making all in help
> >>>>> make[2]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
> >>>>> Making all in scripts
> >>>>> make[2]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
> >>>>> Making all in symbols
> >>>>> make[2]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
> >>>>> Making all in callpass
> >>>>> make[2]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
> >>>>> ??
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> then "sudo make install":
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> "Making install in src
> >>>>> Making install in rtree
> >>>>> make[3]: Nothing to be done for `install-exec-am'.
> >>>>> make[3]: Nothing to be done for `install-data-am'.
> >>>>> rm -f compiledate.c compiledate.o
> >>>>> echo 'char gitstring[] = "'"`../../scripts/XastirGitStamp.sh
> >> ../..`"'";'
> >>>>>>> compiledate.c
> >>>>>  CC       compiledate.o
> >>>>>  GEN      xastir
> >>>>> ld: warning: directory not found for option '-L/sw/lib'
> >>>>> ld: warning: dylib (/opt/local/lib/libXt.dylib) was built for newer
> >> macOS
> >>>>> version (11.3) than being linked (11.0)
> >>>>> ld: warning: dylib (/opt/local/lib/libX11.dylib) was built for newer
> >> macOS
> >>>>> version (11.3) than being linked (11.0)
> >>>>> ld: warning: dylib (/opt/local/lib/libjasper.dylib) was built for
> >> newer
> >>>>> macOS version (11.3) than being linked (11.0)
> >>>>> ld: warning: dylib (/opt/local/lib/libpng16.dylib) was built for
> >> newer
> >>>>> macOS version (11.3) than being linked (11.0)
> >>>>> ld: warning: dylib (/opt/local/lib/libbz2.dylib) was built for newer
> >> macOS
> >>>>> version (11.3) than being linked (11.0)
> >>>>> ld: warning: dylib (/opt/local/lib/libxml2.dylib) was built for newer
> >>>>> macOS version (11.3) than being linked (11.0)
> >>>>> ld: warning: dylib (/opt/local/lib/libz.dylib) was built for newer
> >> macOS
> >>>>> version (11.3) than being linked (11.0)
> >>>>> ld: warning: dylib (/opt/local/lib/libtiff.dylib) was built for newer
> >>>>> macOS version (11.2) than being linked (11.0)
> >>>>> ld: warning: dylib (/opt/local/lib/libXext.dylib) was built for newer
> >>>>> macOS version (11.3) than being linked (11.0)
> >>>>> ld: warning: dylib (/opt/local/lib/libSM.dylib) was built for newer
> >> macOS
> >>>>> version (11.3) than being linked (11.0)
> >>>>> ld: warning: dylib (/opt/local/lib/libICE.dylib) was built for newer
> >> macOS
> >>>>> version (11.3) than being linked (11.0)
> >>>>> ld: warning: dylib (/opt/local/lib/libcurl.dylib) was built for newer
> >>>>> macOS version (11.2) than being linked (11.0)
> >>>>> rm -f compiledate.c compiledate.o
> >>>>> echo 'char gitstring[] = "'"`../../scripts/XastirGitStamp.sh
> >> ../..`"'";'
> >>>>>>> compiledate.c
> >>>>>  CC       compiledate.o
> >>>>>  GEN      xastir
> >>>>> ld: warning: directory not found for option '-L/sw/lib'
> >>>>> ld: warning: dylib (/opt/local/lib/libXt.dylib) was built for newer
> >> macOS
> >>>>> version (11.3) than being linked (11.0)
> >>>>> ld: warning: dylib (/opt/local/lib/libtiff.dylib) was built for newer
> >>>>> macOS version (11.2) than being linked (11.0)
> >>>>> ld: warning: dylib (/opt/local/lib/libX11.dylib) was built for newer
> >> macOS
> >>>>> version (11.3) than being linked (11.0)
> >>>>> ld: warning: dylib (/opt/local/lib/libjasper.dylib) was built for
> >> newer
> >>>>> macOS version (11.3) than being linked (11.0)
> >>>>> ld: warning: dylib (/opt/local/lib/libpng16.dylib) was built for
> >> newer
> >>>>> macOS version (11.3) than being linked (11.0)
> >>>>> ld: warning: dylib (/opt/local/lib/libbz2.dylib) was built for newer
> >> macOS
> >>>>> version (11.3) than being linked (11.0)
> >>>>> ld: warning: dylib (/opt/local/lib/libz.dylib) was built for newer
> >> macOS
> >>>>> version (11.3) than being linked (11.0)
> >>>>> ld: warning: dylib (/opt/local/lib/libxml2.dylib) was built for newer
> >>>>> macOS version (11.3) than being linked (11.0)
> >>>>> ld: warning: dylib (/opt/local/lib/libXext.dylib) was built for newer
> >>>>> macOS version (11.3) than being linked (11.0)
> >>>>> ld: warning: dylib (/opt/local/lib/libSM.dylib) was built for newer
> >> macOS
> >>>>> version (11.3) than being linked (11.0)
> >>>>> ld: warning: dylib (/opt/local/lib/libICE.dylib) was built for newer
> >> macOS
> >>>>> version (11.3) than being linked (11.0)
> >>>>> ld: warning: dylib (/opt/local/lib/libcurl.dylib) was built for newer
> >>>>> macOS version (11.2) than being linked (11.0)
> >>>>> /opt/local/bin/gmkdir -p '/opt/local/bin'
> >>>>>  /opt/local/bin/ginstall -c xastir xastir_udp_client testdbfawk
> >>>>> '/opt/local/bin'
> >>>>> make[3]: Nothing to be done for `install-data-am'.
> >>>>> Making install in config
> >>>>> /Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/usr/bin/make
> >> install-exec-hook
> >>>>> rm -f /opt/local/share/xastir/config/nwsfz_ddmmyy.dbfawk
> >>>>> /opt/local/bin/gmkdir -p '/opt/local/share/xastir/config'
> >>>>> /opt/local/bin/ginstall -c -m 644 ../../config/language-Dutch.sys
> >>>>> ../../config/language-English.sys ../../config/language-French.sys
> >>>>> ../../config/language-German.sys ../../config/language-Italian.sys
> >>>>> ../../config/language-Portuguese.sys
> >> ../../config/language-Spanish.sys
> >>>>> ../../config/language-ElmerFudd.sys
> >> ../../config/language-MuppetsChef.sys
> >>>>> ../../config/language-OldeEnglish.sys
> >> ../../config/language-PigLatin.sys
> >>>>> ../../config/language-PirateEnglish.sys ../../config/xastir.rgb
> >>>>> ../../config/gps_wpt.dbfawk ../../config/24kgrid.dbfawk
> >>>>> ../../config/stored_track.dbfawk ../../config/tgr2shp.dbfawk
> >>>>> ../../config/tgr2shppoly.dbfawk ../../config/tgr2shppoly_2006.dbfawk
> >>>>> ../../config/tgrcty.dbfawk ../../config/tgrkgl.dbfawk
> >>>>> ../../config/tgrlk.dbfawk ../../config/tgrlpt.dbfawk
> >>>>> ../../config/tgrlpy.dbfawk ../../config/tgrplc00.dbfawk
> >>>>> ../../config/tgrwat.dbfawk ../../config/nwsc_ddmmyy.dbfawk
> >>>>> ../../config/nwsc_ddmmyy_09.dbfawk
> >> ../../config/nwsc_ddmmyy_09b.dbfawk
> >>>>> ../../config/nwsc_ddmmyy_10.dbfawk
> >> ../../config/nwsc_ddmmyy_10a.dbfawk
> >>>>> ../../config/nwsc_ddmmyy_13.dbfawk ../../config/nwsc_ddmmyy_15.dbfawk
> >>>>> ../../config/nwsfz_ddmmyy_19.dbfawk ../../config/nwsmzddmmyy.dbfawk
> >>>>> ../../config/nwsmzddmmyy_09.dbfawk ../../config/nwsmzddmmyy_11.dbfawk
> >>>>> ../../config/nwsmzddmmyy_16.dbfawk ../../config/nwsmzddmmyy_17.dbfawk
> >>>>> ../../config/nwsmzoddmmyy.dbfawk '/opt/local/share/xastir/config'
> >>>>> /opt/local/bin/ginstall -c -m 644 ../../config/nwsozddmmyy.dbfawk
> >>>>> ../../config/nwsozddmmyy_09.dbfawk ../../config/nwsozddmmyy_14.dbfawk
> >>>>> ../../config/nwsozddmmyy_14b.dbfawk ../../config/nwsozddap12.dbfawk
> >>>>> ../../config/nwsw_ddmmyy.dbfawk ../../config/nwsw_ddmmyy_09.dbfawk
> >>>>> ../../config/nwsw_ddmmyy_10.dbfawk ../../config/nwsw_ddmmyy_13.dbfawk
> >>>>> ../../config/nwsw_ddmmyy_14.dbfawk
> >> ../../config/nwsw_ddmmyy_14a.dbfawk
> >>>>> ../../config/nwsw_ddmmyy_17.dbfawk ../../config/nwsw_ddmmyy_20.dbfawk
> >>>>> ../../config/nwsw_ddjn12.dbfawk ../../config/nwsz_ddmmyy.dbfawk
> >>>>> ../../config/nwsz_ddmmyy_09.dbfawk ../../config/nwsz_ddmmyy_10.dbfawk
> >>>>> ../../config/nwsz_ddmmyy_10b.dbfawk
> >> ../../config/nwsz_ddmmyy_10c.dbfawk
> >>>>> ../../config/nwsz_ddmmyy_11.dbfawk ../../config/nwsz_ddmmyy_13.dbfawk
> >>>>> ../../config/nwsz_ddmmyy_19.dbfawk ../../config/nwsz1ddmmyy.dbfawk
> >>>>> ../../config/nwszoddmmyy.dbfawk ../../config/nwshzddmmyy.dbfawk
> >>>>> ../../config/nwshzddmmyy_old14.dbfawk
> >>>>> ../../config/OSM_Cloudmade_administrative.dbfawk
> >>>>> ../../config/OSM_Cloudmade_highway.dbfawk
> >>>>> ../../config/OSM_Cloudmade_natural.dbfawk
> >>>>> ../../config/OSM_Cloudmade_poi.dbfawk
> >>>>> ../../config/OSM_Cloudmade_water_and_coastline.dbfawk
> >>>>> ../../config/OSM_geofabrik_roads.dbfawk
> >>>>> ../../config/OSM_geofabrik_waterways.dbfawk
> >>>>> ../../config/predefined_EVENT.sys ../../config/predefined_SAR.sys
> >>>>> ../../config/tl_2009_aiannh.dbfawk ../../config/tl_2009_aits.dbfawk
> >>>>> ../../config/tl_2009_arealm.dbfawk
> >> ../../config/tl_2009_areawater.dbfawk
> >>>>> ../../config/tl_2009_county.dbfawk '/opt/local/share/xastir/config'
> >>>>> /opt/local/bin/ginstall -c -m 644 ../../config/tl_2009_cousub.dbfawk
> >>>>> ../../config/tl_2009_edges.dbfawk ../../config/tl_2009_mil.dbfawk
> >>>>> ../../config/tl_2009_nn_county.dbfawk
> >> ../../config/tl_2009_pointlm.dbfawk
> >>>>> ../../config/tl_2009_zcta5.dbfawk ../../config/tnc-startup.aea
> >>>>> ../../config/tnc-startup.d700 ../../config/tnc-startup.d72_d710
> >>>>> ../../config/tnc-startup.kam ../../config/tnc-startup.kpc2
> >>>>> ../../config/tnc-startup.kpc3 ../../config/tnc-startup.null
> >>>>> ../../config/tnc-startup.paccomm ../../config/tnc-startup.pico
> >>>>> ../../config/tnc-startup.sys ../../config/tnc-startup.thd7
> >>>>> ../../config/tnc-startup.tnc2 ../../config/tnc-startup.tnc2-ui
> >>>>> ../../config/tnc-stop.d700 ../../config/tnc-stop.d72_d710
> >>>>> ../../config/tnc-stop.sys ../../config/tnc-stop.thd7
> >>>>> ../../config/tnc-stop.tnc2-ui ../../config/areawater.dbfawk
> >>>>> ../../config/arealm.dbfawk ../../config/tabblock.dbfawk
> >>>>> ../../config/cousub.dbfawk ../../config/cousub00.dbfawk
> >>>>> ../../config/edge.dbfawk ../../config/featnames.dbfawk
> >>>>> ../../config/pointlm.dbfawk ../../config/gfe_public_weather.dbfawk
> >>>>> ../../config/gfe_metro_areas.dbfawk
> >> ../../config/gfe_fire_weather.dbfawk
> >>>>> ../../config/gfe_coastal_waters_warnings.dbfawk
> >>>>> ../../config/gfe_coastal_waters.dbfawk
> >> '/opt/local/share/xastir/config'
> >>>>> Making install in help
> >>>>> make[2]: Nothing to be done for `install-exec-am'.
> >>>>> /opt/local/bin/gmkdir -p '/opt/local/share/xastir/help'
> >>>>> /opt/local/bin/ginstall -c -m 644 ../../help/help-Dutch.dat
> >>>>> ../../help/help-English.dat ../../help/help-French.dat
> >>>>> ../../help/help-German.dat ../../help/help-Italian.dat
> >>>>> ../../help/help-Portuguese.dat ../../help/help-Spanish.dat
> >>>>> '/opt/local/share/xastir/help'
> >>>>> Making install in scripts
> >>>>> make[2]: Nothing to be done for `install-exec-am'.
> >>>>> /opt/local/bin/gmkdir -p '/opt/local/share/xastir/scripts'
> >>>>> /opt/local/bin/ginstall -c -m 644 ../../scripts/ads-b.pl
> >> ../../scripts/
> >>>>> ais.pl ../../scripts/ais_pp.pl ../../scripts/Coordinate.pm
> >> ../../scripts/
> >>>>> coord-convert.pl ../../scripts/geopdf2gtiff.pl get-BOMdata
> >> get-fcc-rac.pl
> >>>>> get-gnis get-pop get-NWSdata ../../scripts/gpx2shape icontable.pl
> >>>>> ../../scripts/inf2geo.pl ../../scripts/kiss-off.pl
> >>>>> ../../scripts/langElmerFudd.pl ../../scripts/langMuppetsChef.pl
> >>>>> ../../scripts/langOldeEnglish.pl ../../scripts/langPigLatin.pl
> >>>>> ../../scripts/langPirateEnglish.pl ../../scripts/mapblast2geo.pl
> >>>>> ../../scripts/mapfgd.pl ../../scripts/object2shp.pl ../../scripts/
> >>>>> overlay.pl ../../scripts/ozi2geo.pl ../../scripts/permutations.pl
> >>>>> ../../scripts/pos2shp.pl ../../scripts/ridge_radar.pl ../../scripts/
> >>>>> slideshow.pl ../../scripts/split_gnis.bash ../../scripts/
> >> split_gnis.pl
> >>>>> ../../scripts/test_coord.pl ../../scripts/toporama50k.pl
> >> ../../scripts/
> >>>>> toporama250k.pl ../../scripts/track-get.pl ../../scripts/
> >>>>> update_langfile.pl ../../scripts/waypoint-get.pl ../../scripts/
> >> wms.pl
> >>>>> ../../scripts/wxnowsrv.pl '/opt/local/share/xastir/scripts'
> >>>>> /Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/usr/bin/make
> >> install-data-hook
> >>>>> cd /opt/local/share/xastir/scripts && \
> >>>>>        chmod a+x *.pl get-* gpx2* *.bash
> >>>>> Making install in symbols
> >>>>> make[2]: Nothing to be done for `install-exec-am'.
> >>>>> /opt/local/bin/gmkdir -p '/opt/local/share/xastir/symbols'
> >>>>> /opt/local/bin/ginstall -c -m 644 ../../symbols/symbols.dat
> >>>>> ../../symbols/2x2.xbm ../../symbols/25pct.xbm ../../symbols/13pct.xbm
> >>>>> ../../symbols/alert.xbm ../../symbols/flood.xbm
> >> ../../symbols/red_flag.xbm
> >>>>> ../../symbols/snow.xbm ../../symbols/torndo.xbm
> >> ../../symbols/wind.xbm
> >>>>> ../../symbols/winter_storm.xbm ../../symbols/winter_weather.xbm
> >>>>> ../../symbols/icon.png '/opt/local/share/xastir/symbols'
> >>>>> Making install in callpass
> >>>>> /opt/local/bin/gmkdir -p '/opt/local/bin'
> >>>>>  /opt/local/bin/ginstall -c callpass '/opt/local/bin'
> >>>>> make[2]: Nothing to be done for `install-data-am'.
> >>>>> /Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/usr/bin/make
> >> install-exec-hook
> >>>>> rm -rf /opt/local/share/xastir/doc
> >>>>> /opt/local/bin/gmkdir -p '/opt/local/share/xastir/Counties'
> >>>>> /opt/local/bin/ginstall -c -m 644 ../placeholder
> >>>>> '/opt/local/share/xastir/Counties'
> >>>>> /opt/local/bin/gmkdir -p '/opt/local/share/doc/xastir'
> >>>>> /opt/local/bin/ginstall -c -m 644 ../AUTHORS ../FAQ ../ChangeLog
> >>>>> ../LICENSE ../README ../README.GIT ../README.CYGWIN ../README.MAPS
> >>>>> ../README.sudo ../COPYING ../INSTALL ../UPGRADE
> >> ../README.Getting-Started
> >>>>> ../README.OSM_maps ../CONTRIBUTING.md ../COPYING.LIB.LESSTIF
> >>>>> '/opt/local/share/doc/xastir'
> >>>>> /opt/local/bin/gmkdir -p '/opt/local/share/xastir/fcc'
> >>>>> /opt/local/bin/ginstall -c -m 644 ../placeholder
> >>>>> '/opt/local/share/xastir/fcc'
> >>>>> /opt/local/bin/gmkdir -p '/opt/local/share/xastir/maps/Online/
> >>>>> geogratis.gc.ca'
> >>>>> /opt/local/bin/ginstall -c -m 644 ../National.geo ../Regional.geo
> >>>>> ../Sub_national.geo ../Sub_regional.geo
> >>>>> '/opt/local/share/xastir/maps/Online/geogratis.gc.ca'
> >>>>> /opt/local/bin/gmkdir -p '/opt/local/share/xastir/GNIS'
> >>>>> /opt/local/bin/ginstall -c -m 644 ../placeholder
> >>>>> '/opt/local/share/xastir/GNIS'
> >>>>> /opt/local/bin/gmkdir -p '/opt/local/share/xastir/maps/GPS'
> >>>>> /opt/local/bin/ginstall -c -m 644 ../placeholder
> >>>>> '/opt/local/share/xastir/maps/GPS'
> >>>>> /opt/local/bin/gmkdir -p '/opt/local/share/man/man1'
> >>>>> /opt/local/bin/ginstall -c -m 644 ../xastir.1 ../callpass.1
> >>>>> ../xastir_udp_client.1 ../testdbfawk.1 '/opt/local/share/man/man1'
> >>>>> /opt/local/bin/gmkdir -p '/opt/local/share/xastir/maps'
> >>>>> /opt/local/bin/ginstall -c -m 644 ../worldhi.map
> >>>>> ../CC_OpenStreetMap_logo.png ../CC_OpenStreetMap_txt.png
> >>>>> '/opt/local/share/xastir/maps'
> >>>>> /opt/local/bin/gmkdir -p '/opt/local/share/xastir/maps/Online/
> >>>>> nationalmap.gov'
> >>>>> /opt/local/bin/ginstall -c -m 644 ../WMS_USGS_Hydrography.geo
> >>>>> ../WMS_USGS_ImageryOnly.geo ../WMS_USGS_ImageryTopo.geo
> >>>>> ../WMS_USGS_ShadedReliefOnly.geo ../WMS_USGS_Topo.geo
> >>>>> '/opt/local/share/xastir/maps/Online/nationalmap.gov'
> >>>>> /opt/local/bin/gmkdir -p '/opt/local/share/xastir/maps/Online'
> >>>>> /opt/local/bin/ginstall -c -m 644 OSM_tiled_cycle.geo
> >>>>> OSM_tiled_mapnik.geo OSM_tiled_fosm.geo ../USTigermap.geo
> >>>>> ../USTigermapBorders.geo '/opt/local/share/xastir/maps/Online'
> >>>>> /opt/local/bin/gmkdir -p '/opt/local/share/xastir/sounds'
> >>>>> /opt/local/bin/ginstall -c -m 644 ../placeholder
> >>>>> '/opt/local/share/xastir/sounds'
> >>>>> /Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/usr/bin/make
> >> install-data-hook
> >>>>> cd /opt/local/share/xastir/maps && \
> >>>>>        rm -f CC_OpenStreetMap.png && \
> >>>>>        ln -s CC_OpenStreetMap_logo.png CC_OpenStreetMap.png
> >>>>> ??
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> then ?? xastir ??:
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> "Found pid file: /Users/xxx/.xastir/xastir.pid
> >>>>> Other Xastir process, pid: 51860 does not appear be running.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Built-in map types:
> >>>>>      gnis   USGS GNIS Datapoints
> >>>>>       pop   USGS GNIS Datapoints w/population
> >>>>>       map   APRSdos Maps
> >>>>>       map   WinAPRS/MacAPRS/X-APRS Maps
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Support for these additional map types has been compiled in:
> >>>>>       geo   Image Map (ImageMagick/GraphicsMagick library, many
> >> formats
> >>>>> allowed)
> >>>>>       geo   URL (Internet maps via libcurl library)
> >>>>>       geo   URL (OpenStreetMaps via libcurl library
> >>>>>                  Copyright OpenStreetMap and contributors, CC-BY-SA)
> >>>>>       shp   ESRI Shapefile Maps (Shapelib library)
> >>>>>       xpm   X Pixmap Maps (XPM library)
> >>>>> No protocol specified
> >>>>> Error: Can't open display: :0
> >>>>> % UDP_Server process died.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Then terminal window is stuck, must got ctrl+C to exit
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Trying ?? make clean ?? doesn???t sorted-out.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> could ld: warning: dylib (/opt/local/lib/libXt.dylib) was built for
> >> newer
> >>>>> macOS version (11.3) than being linked (11.0)
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> be the issue?
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 73 de Cyril - DF1CHB - F1MHV
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> _______________________________________________
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> >>>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> --
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> >>> --
> >>> Tom Russo    KM5VY
> >>> Tijeras, NM
> >>> 
> >>> echo "prpv_a'rfg_cnf_har_cvcr" | sed -e 's/_/ /g' | tr [a-m][n-z]
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> >> Tom Russo    KM5VY
> >> Tijeras, NM
> >> 
> >> echo "prpv_a'rfg_cnf_har_cvcr" | sed -e 's/_/ /g' | tr [a-m][n-z]
> >> [n-z][a-m]
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