That's exactly what I would have suggested, yes. I prefer the
bibliography section to be as clean as possible. And yes, do add
article-newspaper. That's definitely correct for APA. I would think
that most styles don't cite the publisher for newspapers (we certainly
never had it requested in Zotero, which doesn't have a publisher field
for newspapers either), but I'd check that on an individual basis.

On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Charles Parnot
<[email protected]> wrote:
> AFAICT, the publisher is not included in magazine articles, newspapers, 
> etc.., but that's just based on this page: 
> https://docs.google.com/gview?url=http://owl.english.purdue.edu//media/pdf/20110928111055_949.pdf&chrome=true
>
> I am not sure if the best place for the `<choose>` element is then in the 
> macro itself, or in the group that calls the macro in the `<bibliography>`. 
> Here is what I have tentatively done in the macro. I figured it's best to 
> keep the main `<layout>` as clean as possible:
>
>  <macro name="publisher">
>    <choose>
>      <if type="report" match="any">
>        <group delimiter=": ">
>          <text variable="publisher-place"/>
>          <text variable="publisher"/>
>        </group>
>      </if>
>      <else-if type="thesis" match="any">
>        <group delimiter=", ">
>          <text variable="publisher"/>
>          <text variable="publisher-place"/>
>        </group>
>      </else-if>
>      <else>
>        <group delimiter=", ">
>          <choose>
>            <if variable="event" match="none">
>              <text variable="genre"/>
>            </if>
>          </choose>
>          <choose>
>            <if type="article-journal article-magazine" match="none">
>              <group delimiter=": ">
>                <text variable="publisher-place"/>
>                <text variable="publisher"/>
>              </group>
>            </if>
>          </choose>
>        </group>
>      </else>
>    </choose>
>  </macro>
>
>
>
> On Mar 20, 2012, at 9:43 AM, Bruce D'Arcus wrote:
>
>> What APA do with publishers in other, non-journal, articles?
>>
>> In any case, the current code probably reflects that Zotero hasn't had
>> a "publisher" variable on journal articles. So I see no problem is
>> tightening this up. The question is just how best to do this.
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Charles Parnot
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> I am going through some tickets in Papers2 regarding styles. I have this 
>>> one ticket I am not sure how to best handle:
>>>
>>>> … I inserted a bibliography, these publishers' names also showed up in the 
>>>> citation. In the APA style, we do not cite the names of the publishers for 
>>>> journal papers (we do cite publishers' name for books)…
>>>
>>> It looks like the issue that was discussed before, where the 'publisher' 
>>> variable is only relevant for non-articles in Zotero and is thus only 
>>> displayed for e.g. books. In Papers, articles can have a publisher, and it 
>>> seems the consensus is that this is actually a proper behavior, see the 
>>> discussion we had on github: 
>>> https://github.com/citation-style-language/styles/issues/82#issuecomment-3681234
>>>  and following comments.
>>>
>>> I'd be happy to modify APA to have some conditionals added on the 
>>> publisher, but since it's such an important style, I don't want to mess it 
>>> up, so I'd like to get your advice or comments first. Or if you guys think 
>>> we should simply never output a publisher for articles.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your feedback!
>>>
>>> Charles
>>>
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