Great, will do!

Like I said, I only checked with you guys because it's APA. I have done it 
before for other more obscure styles without asking ;-)



On Mar 20, 2012, at 9:56 AM, Sebastian Karcher wrote:

> That's exactly what I would have suggested, yes. I prefer the
> bibliography section to be as clean as possible. And yes, do add
> article-newspaper. That's definitely correct for APA. I would think
> that most styles don't cite the publisher for newspapers (we certainly
> never had it requested in Zotero, which doesn't have a publisher field
> for newspapers either), but I'd check that on an individual basis.
> 
> On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Charles Parnot
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> AFAICT, the publisher is not included in magazine articles, newspapers, 
>> etc.., but that's just based on this page: 
>> https://docs.google.com/gview?url=http://owl.english.purdue.edu//media/pdf/20110928111055_949.pdf&chrome=true
>> 
>> I am not sure if the best place for the `<choose>` element is then in the 
>> macro itself, or in the group that calls the macro in the `<bibliography>`. 
>> Here is what I have tentatively done in the macro. I figured it's best to 
>> keep the main `<layout>` as clean as possible:
>> 
>>  <macro name="publisher">
>>    <choose>
>>      <if type="report" match="any">
>>        <group delimiter=": ">
>>          <text variable="publisher-place"/>
>>          <text variable="publisher"/>
>>        </group>
>>      </if>
>>      <else-if type="thesis" match="any">
>>        <group delimiter=", ">
>>          <text variable="publisher"/>
>>          <text variable="publisher-place"/>
>>        </group>
>>      </else-if>
>>      <else>
>>        <group delimiter=", ">
>>          <choose>
>>            <if variable="event" match="none">
>>              <text variable="genre"/>
>>            </if>
>>          </choose>
>>          <choose>
>>            <if type="article-journal article-magazine" match="none">
>>              <group delimiter=": ">
>>                <text variable="publisher-place"/>
>>                <text variable="publisher"/>
>>              </group>
>>            </if>
>>          </choose>
>>        </group>
>>      </else>
>>    </choose>
>>  </macro>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 20, 2012, at 9:43 AM, Bruce D'Arcus wrote:
>> 
>>> What APA do with publishers in other, non-journal, articles?
>>> 
>>> In any case, the current code probably reflects that Zotero hasn't had
>>> a "publisher" variable on journal articles. So I see no problem is
>>> tightening this up. The question is just how best to do this.
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Charles Parnot
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> I am going through some tickets in Papers2 regarding styles. I have this 
>>>> one ticket I am not sure how to best handle:
>>>> 
>>>>> … I inserted a bibliography, these publishers' names also showed up in 
>>>>> the citation. In the APA style, we do not cite the names of the 
>>>>> publishers for journal papers (we do cite publishers' name for books)…
>>>> 
>>>> It looks like the issue that was discussed before, where the 'publisher' 
>>>> variable is only relevant for non-articles in Zotero and is thus only 
>>>> displayed for e.g. books. In Papers, articles can have a publisher, and it 
>>>> seems the consensus is that this is actually a proper behavior, see the 
>>>> discussion we had on github: 
>>>> https://github.com/citation-style-language/styles/issues/82#issuecomment-3681234
>>>>  and following comments.
>>>> 
>>>> I'd be happy to modify APA to have some conditionals added on the 
>>>> publisher, but since it's such an important style, I don't want to mess it 
>>>> up, so I'd like to get your advice or comments first. Or if you guys think 
>>>> we should simply never output a publisher for articles.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for your feedback!
>>>> 
>>>> Charles
>>>> 
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