Hi Steve, Thanks very much for the update, and the work on the CSL editor. I know I have not responded much on the topic, but that's unfortunately because we only have limited resources to handle the workload on Papers and the CSL part of it. I have not yet discussed it with Alex, but if we were to integrate the editor in the app, route 1 seems like the best way to do it for us as well. Like you said, that's a better user experience. At this stage, I don't know if we will integrate the editor, of course, but we'll certainly look into it, and we have been keeping an eye on the progress so far. A good CSL editor is definitely an important piece missing for us as well.
Thanks! Charles On Jun 6, 2012, at 8:13 AM, Steve Ridout wrote: > Hello, > > I'd like to open a discussion with the developers of Zotero, Papers and any > other reference managers about utilizing the CSL Editor that Columbia > University, Mendeley and myself have been working on > (http://steveridout.com/csl/home/) > > It's not ready for the average user yet but there's still a large chunk of > dev time left. As of now, I've still got more than half the hours I've been > contracted for left to finish, and additionally we are now starting to get > input from UX at Mendeley. The code is MIT licenced and we hope it will > continue to be used and maintained after this Sloan funded project ends. > > We want to focus now on making the style editor the best it can be for > individual users to edit their styles. It's not in the project scope to host > user created styles online, or provide an easy method for contributing to the > styles repo (although they are great ideas). With this in mind, Carles from > Mendeley and I have come up with two possibilities for integrating the editor > with reference managers: > > --- 1. CSL editor runs *within* the reference manager application. --- > > This seems ideal from the user's point of view. > > Ref manager application loads the CSL editor page into a web pane, e.g. using > WebKit. It can then interact with the editor to load and save styles by using > a javascript API within the webpage directly. > > This is relatively simple for Mendeley to implement given that they use > WebKit panes already. Since Zotero runs within firefox it seems plausible > that this method could be used by Zotero too, but I'd need confirmation from > the developers. I'm not sure about Papers. > > --- 2. CSL editor runs in a browser, separate from the ref manager. --- > > The ref manager could initiate the CSL editor by: > a) posting the style to be edited to temporary online storage with a publicly > resolvable URL. > b) opening the CSL editor in a browser with the temporary URL in the query > string so it can fetch the style to be edited. > > To get the edited CSL style back into the ref manager, we could use a data > URI with a custom mime type. If the ref manager is registered to handle this > mime type then the user will be presented with an option to either save or > open the file with the ref manager application. > > --- > > We think that option 1 is the best, and are only proposing option 2 in case > there are reference managers that would find implementation of 1 difficult. > > Look forward to hearing from the other ref manager devs with their opinions > and suggestions. > > Thanks, > Steve > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Live Security Virtual Conference > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware > threats. > http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/_______________________________________________ > xbiblio-devel mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xbiblio-devel -- Charles Parnot [email protected] twitter: @cparnot http://mekentosj.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ _______________________________________________ xbiblio-devel mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xbiblio-devel
