@Simon - thanks, that sounds like a good approach, I'll work on it.
@Charles - good to hear, we'll focus on option 1 in this case.
Integration with github sounds promising, and there should be nothing to
stop ref managers implementing this in future (if the editor turns out to
be useful!)
On 6 June 2012 18:54, Simon Kornblith <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Jun 6, 2012, at 11:13 AM, Steve Ridout <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I'd like to open a discussion with the developers of Zotero, Papers and
> any other reference managers about utilizing the CSL Editor that Columbia
> University, Mendeley and myself have been working on (
> http://steveridout.com/csl/home/)
>
> It's not ready for the average user yet but there's still a large chunk of
> dev time left. As of now, I've still got more than half the hours I've been
> contracted for left to finish, and additionally we are now starting to get
> input from UX at Mendeley. The code is MIT licenced and we hope it will
> continue to be used and maintained after this Sloan funded project ends.
>
> We want to focus now on making the style editor the best it can be for
> individual users to edit their styles. It's not in the project scope to
> host user created styles online, or provide an easy method for contributing
> to the styles repo (although they are great ideas). With this in mind,
> Carles from Mendeley and I have come up with two possibilities for
> integrating the editor with reference managers:
>
> --- 1. CSL editor runs *within* the reference manager application. ---
>
> This seems ideal from the user's point of view.
>
> Ref manager application loads the CSL editor page into a web pane, e.g.
> using WebKit. It can then interact with the editor to load and save styles
> by using a javascript API within the webpage directly.
>
> This is relatively simple for Mendeley to implement given that they use
> WebKit panes already. Since Zotero runs within firefox it seems plausible
> that this method could be used by Zotero too, but I'd need confirmation
> from the developers. I'm not sure about Papers.
>
> --- 2. CSL editor runs in a browser, separate from the ref manager. ---
>
> The ref manager could initiate the CSL editor by:
> a) posting the style to be edited to temporary online storage with a
> publicly resolvable URL.
> b) opening the CSL editor in a browser with the temporary URL in the query
> string so it can fetch the style to be edited.
>
> To get the edited CSL style back into the ref manager, we could use a data
> URI with a custom mime type. If the ref manager is registered to handle
> this mime type then the user will be presented with an option to either
> save or open the file with the ref manager application.
>
> ---
>
> We think that option 1 is the best, and are only proposing option 2 in
> case there are reference managers that would find implementation of 1
> difficult.
>
> Look forward to hearing from the other ref manager devs with their
> opinions and suggestions.
>
>
> My feeling is that there should be a modular API for load/save, where an
> object passed to the editor constructor contains the appropriate methods.
> The editor could include a default implementation for running within a
> browser, but it should be possible for custom implementers to provide their
> own implementation. This would be very easy for us, but I'm not sure how
> difficult it is for other implementers to expose native functions to
> content.
>
> Simon
>
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